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Christopher Alan Miller Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 26 October 2006 Location: United States Posts: 2787
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:51am | IP Logged | 1
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McCain in a coffin and Palin holding a gun. How fun.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/1506520-san-franci sco/image/20448741
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Robin Taylor Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1366
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 9:12am | IP Logged | 2
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I need some clarification on the US voting process because this http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression/ind ex.html really freaked me out.
In the recent Canadian election I had yet to obtain an ALberta driver's license, but I was able register at the poll in my new riding with my old license, a current utility bill and a second piece of ID. I voted alongside everyone else without my vote being considered a "provisional or challenge" ballot.
Can Americans not do the same at their polls as I did? If not does that not strike a bit of fear regarding the whole process?
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 14919
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 9:16am | IP Logged | 3
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Can Americans not do the same at their polls as I did? If not does that not strike a bit of fear regarding the whole process?
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Some states allow you to register at the polls, but for most states, the deadline is one to four weeks before the election.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: China Posts: 4944
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 4
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Was watching CNN and the Syrian Ambassador called the American attack in Syria that killed eight civilians "terrorist aggression". Killing farmers and children on a raid on foreign soil? Has the US government totally lost it? Do they honestly believe that these tactics will help their cause?
terrorism (from dictionary.com)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or
an organized group against people or property with the intention of
intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for
ideological or political reasons.
Sounds about right.
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 19 February 2008 Location: United States Posts: 6808
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 10:00am | IP Logged | 5
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The political displays are wrong.
Mike the picture you posted of the lynching, that happened in my home town, my grandparents remembered that sad sad crime. My grandmother knew the girl that accused those young men of rape, said she was nothing but a lying whore. They were outraged they were taken out of their jail cell to be lynched. One young man that was spared, when a woman in the crowd yelled for them to stop, wrote a book about the details.
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 27 October 2008 at 10:03am
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Bill Dowling Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 07 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2185
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Neil: I'm pretty sure that in common international parlance you need to not be wearing a country's military uniform to be a terrorist.
There's also a difference between an attack with the intent of harming civilians and an attack with the unintended result of harming civilians.
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9845
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 11:13am | IP Logged | 7
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I was just sent this by a friend, and wanted to display this here before you all hear it from other sources:
http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?nid=5lgvJJA7XIlclq62s_t 68jc1Nzk2MA--&referred_by=4978951-Hnv0o_x
It's true: I'm a no good slacker who single-handedly gave McCain the election. I ask for your forgiveness.
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Bruce Buchanan Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 14 June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4797
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The facts surrounding the U.S. raid into Syria are still in dispute.
Yes, Syria is claiming that the raid killed several civilians. If true, that certainly is awful. But U.S. and Iraqi officials are saying that the area hit is an Al-Qaida base, where insurgents staged attacks against Allied forces in Iraq. For years, these types of camps have operated with the full consent of - if not outright support from- the Syrian government.
Now, I'm not saying one version of events is right or wrong. But we probably should withhold judgment until the facts come out - if they ever do.
I will say that if this was an Al-Qaida camp, then we had every right to take it out, even on Syrian soil. Just as I agree with Barack Obama that the U.S. needs to go after terrorist bases on the Pakistan side of the Afghan-Pakistani border.
Edited by Bruce Buchanan on 27 October 2008 at 11:17am
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William McCormick Byrne Robotics Member

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Very funny Andrew. Love the part where the guy says he's afraid McCain will bomb his goats.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member

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Thom Price wrote:
| That would be incorrect: This was a
time when I, along with most of my closest friends, were referred to
again and again as "home-grown American terrorists." |
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Thanks for the correction. My point still stands, though, that "terrorist" has taken on a connotation in the past ten years that it did not have in Ayers' day. And that Ayers, despite what he did, is not the moral equivalent of the 9/11 hijackers.
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 September 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 2514
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There's also a difference between an attack with the intent of harming
civilians and an attack with the unintended result of harming civilians.
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Specially when those attacks are not killing US citizens by mistake, that is much more acceptable... I wonder if some other country would do that with a US ship (for example) and kills US citizens "by mistake".
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 19 February 2008 Location: United States Posts: 6808
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| Posted: 27 October 2008 at 12:48pm | IP Logged | 12
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When did the US take on the "oops" mentality? I will do as Bruce says and wait until all the facts are in, but if it is found to be innocent civilians killed, then those that gave the orders should be brought up on charges. Since Iraq did not ask us to invade them, and there were no weapons of mass destruction, no 9/11 link. I believe those that made the orders to attack Iraq should be tried as war criminals. In the last 8 years we have made decisions that have killed far more US citizens and innocent foreign civilians than the 9/11 attacks. How are we any better?
I understand the 'love it or leave it" bull, but I want the US to be better than it has been lately. We need to take private business profits out of the military.
Edited by Jodi Moisan on 27 October 2008 at 12:49pm
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