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Robin Taylor
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 1  

OH yeah I should add that convicted criminal Conrad Black's article is well representative of the man, pretentious and overbearing, I am glad he is not Canadian anymore.

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Do you Scott?

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Scott:

The post was aimed at Jodi.  I've noticed through this entire thread, she points out and basically does a "shame on you" comment about every single slight against Obama, by an non-Obama supporter, no matter how insignificant.  But, when Obama supporters do the same kinds of slights against McCain, she is strangely silent.  Most of the supporters on here, from both sides, call out bad behavior and tactics regardless of whether or not it's aimed at their candidate or the opposing candidate.  Not Jodi.  Her extremely vocal outcries when the slight is against Obama and her odd silence when it's not, shows her approval of the tactics as long as they aren't against her candidate.  That shows what kind of a person she is despite the facade she attempts to display.  (Emphasis added)

This comment about 20-25 pages back belie the above statement:

Jodi:

The political displays are wrong. (Regarding the Palin figure hung in effigy)

Scott, I think Jodi is partisan, and I don't think she would dispute that.  But she is by no means as insidious as you would make her out to be. By my recollection, when there have been hateful things done by supporters of either side she's condemned them.  She has by no means endorsed such politicing.  I think your comments, quoted above, are very unfair.



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Paul didn't it make you feel good being there, when I went to see him, I felt like it was the best of this country, all ages, all races, men and woman standing united to try to make this a better country. There was no hate talk or nastiness. I was so uplifted I felt this is what being an American should feel like.

I feel that way every time I see Bruce Springsteen! 

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Geoff, I call it like I see it.  With the Palin hung in effigy thing, she really had no choice since everyone else was jumping on it as well.  She even downplayed it.  But hey, everyone has different opinions and sees things from their own point of view.  It would be pretty boring around here if that wasn't the case.
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I agree, Geoff. Jodi absolutely is a good egg.

I also think Scott is a good guy, too. Sure, he stirs the pot sometimes, but so do a lot of the pro-Obama JBFers. I'm glad we've got Jodi and Scott around these parts.

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Being an ass on a message board does not mean he's a bad person.

It just means he's an ass on a message board.
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 8  

Geoff, I call it like I see it. 

I still think you're being unfair and you're personalizing it.  Do you think you have been so completely without sin to cast such a stone?  Do you think you've called balls and strikes the same for both sides?  If you want to take an absolutist stand, so be it, but then walk the walk. 

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Geoff, everyone is partisan to some extent.  When somethings sticks out as really bad on either side, I like to think that I'll call it out.  I'll let petty things slide like how much Palin's clothing was or how much Obama's Greek columns were but when it comes to down and dirty tactics I try not to show favorites.

I find appalling that some McCain supporters tried to get Obama supporters to vote a day late in Virginia and the tactics of the woman punishing the trick or treaters.

I'm sure Jodi is a nice person face-to-face when politics aren't involved.
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What I don't get is why the US has this extreme gap between the parties, to the point where people vote for the party rather than the person who will actually represent them. Isn't voting your conscience better than toeing a line?

The editor of the Weekly Standard was on the Daily Show and said (paraphrased) "it should be simple,  vote Obama if you are democrat vote Mcain if you are Republican".I thought that was the dumbest thing I had heard in a while.

Though up here we have a different mindset, we don't vote for, we vote against, because most of our parties are pretty much the same ideologically, so it comes down to who do we not want to see in power-k vote for the party mostly likely to beat them.

Personally when I moved to Edmonton I did some homework on the incumbent and those running against and voted for the person who I thought would best represent me in riding.

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"What would the Chosen People have done to Moses if instead of the Promised Land he sailed them out to Antarctica? Its all over."

40 years walking around aimlessly  in the desert with a scarcity of food and water, preaching patience and he didn't actually get them into the promised land, that was the subsequent administration.

Seriously, 40 years to cross between 100 to 200 miles of land. And they did try to replace him, he was just ... very firm in his response. What would the chosen people have done if he lead them to Antarctica instead? Probably marvelled at his accomplishment and then picked a fight with the penguins.

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Being an ass on a message board does not mean he's a bad person.

It just means he's an ass on a message board.

Thanks Joe, I feel the same about you.
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