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Brian Talley
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Halloween candy Republi-bitch with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq-vRQwmRtw&feature=relat ed
She comes in at about 4:10.
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Joe Zhang
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"Probably marvelled at his accomplishment and then picked a fight with the penguins."
PLO ... The Penguin Liberation Organization
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Geoff Gibson
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You are absolutely right that the economy fared very well under Bill Clinton. But Clinton was a different type of Democrat than Obama - Clinton was much more of a pro-business centrist. Can Obama improve the economy? That remains to be seen, but his approach will be different from Clinton's.
I'm going to start calling Bruce "Hammer" because he always hits the nail on the head. It will be very interesting to see if Obama learns from Clinton's presidency and governs to the center rather than the left. Like Clinton he's going to have a majority in both houses so theoretically he should be unfettered. But what Clinton learned (and one assumes Obama paid attention) is that sometimes the Chief Executive needs to cross the aisle. Obama has promised to do so, lets see if he does.
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Wallace Sellars
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I'm no fan of Governor Palin, but isn't calling her a "floozy" a bit much...?
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Scott Richards
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Incidentally, I can't understand why anyone outside of someone who's
ultra religious, or racist, would want to vote for the Republicans
tomorrow.
For me Mark, it was hard. Your comment is unfair in that it assumes that social issues are the be all and end all of the issues this election. I'm a Democrat who is more liberal on social issues but more conservative on the economy, national security, military and foreign policy. In past elections I have almost always voted based on the social aspect, thus voted my party line. In the current world environment, for me, the other issues trump the social issues this time. While I think Obama would lead to a lot of social reform, IMO, the damage that would be done in the other areas would be too great. With it looking like the house and the senate will have gains in the number of Democratic seats, I don't know for sure that I could have even voted for Clinton, who I view as more moderate, at this point. I still think I would have because I would have trusted her with our military and foreign policy more than I do Obama, but I still would have had to think long and hard.
Do I think Obama is going to win? Yep. And because of that, I'm praying that I'm wrong about the direction he'll take this country. I just don't think I am.
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Michael Penn
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Reagan and Bush the Elder both raised taxes
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Bush Sr's mistake was promising not to do so. Nobody will ever goof like that again! And despite the contrast McCain is making with Obama, he hasn't taken raising taxes off the table -- and rightly so.
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Michael Roberts
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QUOTE:
| 2. You are absolutely right that the economy fared very well under Bill
Clinton. But Clinton was a different type of Democrat than Obama -
Clinton was much more of a pro-business centrist. |
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Which is something a lot of people acknowledge nowadays, but throughout his administration he was viewed as the Liberal Messiah by many on the left and the Liberal Boogeyman by many on the right, when he was neither.
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Bruce Buchanan
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I'm going to start calling Bruce "Hammer" because he always hits the nail on the head.
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Thanks, Geoff, but my wife would strongly disagree with your assessment!
In fact, she'd probably say I should be called "The Squirrel." As in, "Even a blind squirrel will find an acorn every now and then."
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Jeff Gillmer
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Obama. For and against gay marriage at the same time.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/11/obama-on-mtv -i.html
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John Bodin
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I hate to interrupt the naval-gazing love-fest for Obama, but some of you might appreciate this look at things from a perspective OUTSIDE the U.S.:
Seems like a fairly well-grounded look at the potential outcome of the election that's pretty much devoid of ANY partisan viewpoint.
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Monte Gruhlke
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(Jodi’s)... odd silence when it's not, shows her approval of the tactics as long as they aren't against her candidate...
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On a side note, my thought is that Jodi imagined that McCain supporters would rise to say "shame on you" when their candidate is slighted. I am surprised that she is now expected to rail against both sides... ;-)
But my main general question is how does anyone's perceived 'silence' about an issue be used as a full-fledged endorsement of anything? I don't say a lot of things, does that mean I am undeniably both for and against many issues?
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Mark McKay
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Finally, tomorrow, one way or the other, our near-two-year nightmare of endless campaign discussion will be over! (Unless we have another 2000). And for one half of us, or the other, a new 4-year nightmare will begin!
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