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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | 1
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Michael Myers wrote:
| Hey, Jason, rather than making snide comments, why don't you try tro
put your money where your mouth is? If you think you can effectively
argue against any of the points I've previously offered, well then do
it, boy. |
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Wow. Note to self: Do NOT attempt to engage in good-natured kidding with Michael Myers.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 3:47pm | IP Logged | 2
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Marcio Ferreira wrote:
Matt, you are taking your own experience as standard? What about the people who had to wait for hours, I am not the one saying that, the news are saying that. I just believe that American people deserve more consideration of their government when exercising the most important right of a democratic nation. I am glad it does not affect everyone. I just think if should not be a problem for ANYONE. |
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If we take the average of everyone who has responded so far in this thread, both early voting and today, I think you'd come somewhere around a half hour. Most are not waiting hours to vote. The lines I saw this morning in Los Angeles were all people waiting in line prior to the polls opening. It was not indicative of the lines once the doors opened. Every single person I spoke to in the office today said it took a half hour or less to vote. What you hear on the news are the minority of places where it's taking longer. Of course the news is reporting that. It's sensationalist. They'd report that first rather than "In and out in ten minutes. Back to you, John!"
In any event, there will always be problems with polling places. There was one here in Los Angeles that lost power. The lines there were longer. Oh well. What do you do. For the vast majority, however, the lines even in this impressive turnout are nowhere near the length you are hearing they are in Brazil and certainly not anything to get your undies in a twist over. Waiting for something you want to do isn't inherently bad. We do it all the time. No different here.
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Matthew Chartrand Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 June 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1365
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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | 3
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I voted at 3:45pm and it took only 10 minutes.(Michigan)
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 4
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Matt,
I am still at work, and I assumed that the situation was bad. I am still mad about Al Gore losing the election in 2000. we all saw about the problems there, so....
I got that feeling from HERE.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:06pm | IP Logged | 5
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Can't read it, sorry Marcio.
As a point of reference, there's a polling station right across the street from where I work. The line has only been 8 people long at it's greatest length and for most of the day there hasn't been a line at all. I think any information you're hearing that the voting situation in the US today is bad is sensationalist and not indicative of the vast majority of voters here.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | 6
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Watching CNN. Three hour waits in Orlando, Florida. Don't these people have to work?
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Marcio Ferreira Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 7
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Matt,
This is not different from state to state? You are in California right? You guys know how is the situation in the "swing" states? (like Florida that Neil just mentioned)
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member

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FOX is not a conservative channel. It's a Republican channel. A conservative channel would have eaten George W.Bush alive.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 9
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Yes, it's different from state to state. Does that mean that there are three hour waits for a vast majority of Americans today? No. Also, I'd want to know if that three hours in Orlando is at a specific polling place or is citywide. There can be malfunctions and, as I said earlier, power outages where waits can be long. News services pick that up, leave off the "why", and you hear it takes three hours to vote.
In any event, it's not wide spread. It's not bad all over the US. It's not even bad in half or a quarter of the US. It's in specific, localized polling locations and those instances are not, at all, indicative of the vast majority of the United States.
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Brian Talley Byrne Robotics Member

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Don't these people have to work?
Election day should be a national holiday
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security

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Marcio, I live in Ohio. We are a big swing state. Lines get long when the polls open and after 5PM when folks get out of work. If you go anytime from 8AM to 4PM there really isn't a wait. If people are waiting three hours in the afternoon, I would expect a problem with the voting machines. It doesn't take but 5-10 minutes to cast your ballot. I think the media is making more out of this than it really is.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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| Posted: 04 November 2008 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 12
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Right. It's more sensationalistic to deliver a news story that people are waiting hours in line to vote, making it seem like that's the case for the majority, rather than report that 90% of the polling locations are in-and-out in less than a half hour.
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