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Peter Martin
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

There's a phenomenon -- let's call it Martin's Rule -- whereby over time a large number of pithy quotes get attributed to handful of people who never said them (e.g Ghandi, Churchill, Mark Twain, Einstein).

The liberal when young, conservative older saying has definitely been around a long time, but it's one of those things that has found its way to being attributed to Churchill, even though he didn't say it.
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Brian Acuff
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 9:07pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

And decades later Conservatives have no heart and no sense.
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James Johnson
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Posted: 14 January 2026 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

NOPE!

He used his podcast to promote Trump during the campaign knowing what type of person he is. Rogan's followers ate that shit up. It would not surprise me that a few of them became ICE agents due the bullshit that he was feeding them.

Rogan said that he supported ICE agents getting the "rapists", "murderers", and "members of drug cartels" off our streets when all of that translated to in the POC community was : Send every person of Latin/Hispanic origin back across the border by any means necessary.

Race is the driving force behind ICE's efforts.

Now that a white woman (albeit, the wrong type for the maga crew because she had a "partner") has been murdered, shit's gotten out of hand.

If he wants to say that he was wrong, then he should prove it. 

The same effort that he gave being Trump's promoter podcast boy during the 2024 campaign, show that same fucking effort in calling him out daily, ....every minute on his show.... until this nightmare is over.

Until then, he bought into 47s bullshit, he owns it.




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 Robin Taylor wrote:
Guess I have no sense. Conservatism seemed cruel when I was a teenager and now it's just fascism.


I've been braced my entire life for my other political shoe (a right wingtip?) to drop but I am far loonier left than I was at 15, when I read Alan Moore's Artists Against Rampant Government Homophobia. Perhaps it has something to do with the batshit right-wingery of the senior generation of my extended family, who as a friend of mind pointed out, equate liberalism with thinking the Holocaust happened.

So when I haven't been flaming out of comic books or independent film, my career has been spent raising more than $9 million for not-for-profits, for the arts, communities, economic opportunity, education, health care, historic preservation, human services, medical research, racial equity, social justice, youth and family, and, uh, independent films. My work has touched millions of lives and made the world a better place.

Admittedly I've worked with young'n's who dismissed me as fascist for my faggy "professionalism" and "accounting best practices" but they were shitheads.

Also, I never pretended to be particularly nice, and a lot of kids mistake impatience and snarly dismissal of terrible ideas for political conservatism. But like I said, they're shitheads.
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Conservatism isn't fascism.

I grew up under Labour and Conservative governments both during the 70's and 80's, and - while Labour espoused very laudable goals - it took Thatcher to markedly improve the lot of working people, reinvigorating local authority services, and enabling people to buy their own homes. For OUR family, that gave us choices - BUT she also caused mass unemployment in reforms of heavy industry ; divisve is probably right . Many hated her,

NONE of which though is fascism. And our Parliament - the world's first - still stands as testament.

What the US is currently countenancing is a society where the ruling party actively identifies 'others' as being the root of all their problems - so, tolerance and diversity is not allowed - quite against your own history.

Fascism projects it's fear onto others - instead of stepping up to meet a challenge, liability is attributed to others (foreigners, trans, gays)

And - to fulfil a fascist agenda -  you have a President who must rank as the Worst In History - even more foul than his first term. People literally being shot in the street. 

Such a shame that America's 250th anniversary is due to be overseen by a rampant orange clown.



Edited by Phil Frances on 15 January 2026 at 7:11am
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