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Edward Aycock
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Posted: 24 November 2025 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

In this case, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.  I don't trust her as far as I can throw her nor do I trust where her supposed lucidity is coming from.  

I'll always remember her labeling everybody as a pedophile or taunting David Hogg.  
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James Johnson
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Posted: 24 November 2025 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I guess MTG fucked around and found out........

No sympathy from this corner. MTG carried the water for 47 and the MAGA bullshit. MTG voted for BBB without reading what it contained then bitched about it after it passed the Senate. 

Now she wants folks to think differently of her.

NOPE! Fuck Her!

....ask me how I really feel......
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Michael Murphy
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Posted: 24 November 2025 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Trump may have started MAGA but he isn't really a true believer, as near as I can tell. He is concerned about wealth, respect and fame and tends to believe whatever the last person told him as long as they are at least polite to him, just look at how well his meeting with Zohran Mamdani went. He doesn't have any political ideology, he only cares about Trump.

MTG, on the other hand, is a true believer in MAGA (America first, anti-abortion, Christian Nationalism, no foreign aid, etc.). She voted with Trump and her party the vast majority of the time, only veering away and speaking out against her party when they strayed from what the MAGA line is supposed to be, like the Epstein files. While I disagree with almost everything she said during her time in office, her cardinal sin was being a true believer when her leader wasn't so he and his cult turned on her.

All that said, I think she is an idiot and doesn't get any sympathy from me.


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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 25 November 2025 at 4:18pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

She's serving long enough to get the pension and free lifetime healthcare. Two things that should not exist.

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Posted: 25 November 2025 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Why not?
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 25 November 2025 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Politics should not be a full time job, and the free health care should go away no more than four years after they are out of office.

Them getting free heathcare for life is probably one of the reasons they don"t care about fixing our health care system. 
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Michael Casselman
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Posted: 25 November 2025 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Their healthcare isn't as 'free' as many make it out to be. They still pay premiums through a healthcare exchange (partial paid by the employer). The pension doesn't kick in for another decade or so for her at about $8,700 a year (currently, assuming she doesn't get back into another Federal office).
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 26 November 2025 at 1:21am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

 Brian Floyd wrote:
Them getting free heathcare for life is probably one of the reasons they don"t care about fixing our health care system.

Conversely, if politicians didn't get good salaries and benefits, they would then, as of their first day in office, strive to make deals and forge special bonds with various lobbyists, so that they could ensure that, upon their (often very early) retirement, they would receive the very best of care.


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James Woodcock
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Posted: 26 November 2025 at 6:49am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

There is a theory that MPs, or their equivalent in each country, should be
paid £1 million a year each to try to prevent vulnerability to lobbying.

Part of me thinks this would be a good idea, the realist in me says they
would just want MORE! And thus still be vulnerable.

Trump has vast wealth, but will bend over for anyone willing to give him a
compliment or a plane.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 26 November 2025 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply


 QUOTE:
Trump has vast wealth, but will bend over for anyone willing to give him a
compliment or a plane.

But the kickbacks go to his presidential library!
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 26 November 2025 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Conversely, if politicians didn't get good salaries and benefits, they would then, as of their first day in office, strive to make deals and forge special bonds with various lobbyists, so that they could ensure that, upon their (often very early) retirement, they would receive the very best of care.

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There should be laws in place to PREVENT such practices.

Maybe have an incentive to provide good legislation for the people in - increased salaries/benefits. Working with lobbyists who don't serve the WILL OF THE PEOPLE should result in penalties... 

... but yeah, I know that sounds absurd!

-C!
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Posted: 26 November 2025 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

The problem with laws to control the excesses of politicians is that they have to be introduced and passed by those selfsame politicians.

Fox, meet henhouse.

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