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Edward Aycock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 13 July 2024 Location: United States Posts: 76
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| Posted: 24 November 2025 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 1
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In this case, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. I don't trust her as far as I can throw her nor do I trust where her supposed lucidity is coming from.
I'll always remember her labeling everybody as a pedophile or taunting David Hogg.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2240
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| Posted: 24 November 2025 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | 2
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I guess MTG fucked around and found out........
No sympathy from this corner. MTG carried the water for 47 and the MAGA bullshit. MTG voted for BBB without reading what it contained then bitched about it after it passed the Senate.
Now she wants folks to think differently of her.
NOPE! Fuck Her!
....ask me how I really feel......
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Michael Murphy Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 06 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 346
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| Posted: 24 November 2025 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | 3
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Trump may have started MAGA but he isn't really a true believer, as near as I can tell. He is concerned about wealth, respect and fame and tends to believe whatever the last person told him as long as they are at least polite to him, just look at how well his meeting with Zohran Mamdani went. He doesn't have any political ideology, he only cares about Trump.MTG, on the other hand, is a true believer in MAGA (America first, anti-abortion, Christian Nationalism, no foreign aid, etc.). She voted with Trump and her party the vast majority of the time, only veering away and speaking out against her party when they strayed from what the MAGA line is supposed to be, like the Epstein files. While I disagree with almost everything she said during her time in office, her cardinal sin was being a true believer when her leader wasn't so he and his cult turned on her.
All that said, I think she is an idiot and doesn't get any sympathy from me.
Edited by Michael Murphy on 24 November 2025 at 11:37pm
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 07 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 8797
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| Posted: 25 November 2025 at 4:18pm | IP Logged | 4
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She's serving long enough to get the pension and free lifetime healthcare. Two things that should not exist.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 135306
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| Posted: 25 November 2025 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | 5
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Why not?
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 07 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 8797
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| Posted: 25 November 2025 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 6
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Politics should not be a full time job, and the free health care should go away no more than four years after they are out of office.
Them getting free heathcare for life is probably one of the reasons they don"t care about fixing our health care system.
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Michael Casselman Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 14 January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1259
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| Posted: 25 November 2025 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | 7
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Their healthcare isn't as 'free' as many make it out to be. They still pay premiums through a healthcare exchange (partial paid by the employer). The pension doesn't kick in for another decade or so for her at about $8,700 a year (currently, assuming she doesn't get back into another Federal office).
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Koroush Ghazi Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 25 October 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1675
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| Posted: 26 November 2025 at 1:21am | IP Logged | 8
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Brian Floyd wrote:
| Them getting free heathcare for life is probably one of the reasons they don"t care about fixing our health care system. |
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Conversely, if politicians didn't get good salaries and benefits, they would then, as of their first day in office, strive to make deals and forge special bonds with various lobbyists, so that they could ensure that, upon their (often very early) retirement, they would receive the very best of care.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8245
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| Posted: 26 November 2025 at 6:49am | IP Logged | 9
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There is a theory that MPs, or their equivalent in each country, should be paid £1 million a year each to try to prevent vulnerability to lobbying.
Part of me thinks this would be a good idea, the realist in me says they would just want MORE! And thus still be vulnerable.
Trump has vast wealth, but will bend over for anyone willing to give him a compliment or a plane.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 March 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 16268
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| Posted: 26 November 2025 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | 10
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QUOTE:
Trump has vast wealth, but will bend over for anyone willing to give him a compliment or a plane. |
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But the kickbacks go to his presidential library!
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4879
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| Posted: 26 November 2025 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | 11
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Conversely, if politicians didn't get good salaries and benefits, they would then, as of their first day in office, strive to make deals and forge special bonds with various lobbyists, so that they could ensure that, upon their (often very early) retirement, they would receive the very best of care.
***** There should be laws in place to PREVENT such practices.
Maybe have an incentive to provide good legislation for the people in - increased salaries/benefits. Working with lobbyists who don't serve the WILL OF THE PEOPLE should result in penalties...
... but yeah, I know that sounds absurd!
-C!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 26 November 2025 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 12
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The problem with laws to control the excesses of politicians is that they have to be introduced and passed by those selfsame politicians. Fox, meet henhouse.
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