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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8686
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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | 1
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the pandemic lockdowns were weird. I was never furloughed, but worked from home, doing a lot of Zoom calls as I was on a few international projects. It was funny talking to adults who were furloughed, who seemed to think no one was working. they just couldn't get that I was at work.
My son got barely any work from school, so we bought a 20 week on line 11+ course and I split each week over 5 days - that became his school work. He aced the 11+ when he took it.
It was a mega hot spring/summer, and we would go out each afternoon after I finished work for a bike ride. good times.
But there were other parents that seemed to really struggle. And yes, it became clear that those kids did not get some real basics sorted by their parents. They also seemed to struggle socially after a year of not interacting with other kids.
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 04 July 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 452
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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 4:20pm | IP Logged | 2
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As a teacher, the biggest dip in knowledge and comprehension definitely occurred with the kids who were in K-3 during the lockdown years. The issue is, the kids I'm teaching now weren't yet in school when the lockdowns happened, but I'm seeing the same low level of comprehension and critical thinking. Something changed. (I blame screens mostly.)
I will say, my wife and I both volunteered to teach online for a full year during the pandemic, which means we both got to work from home 3 or 4 days a week (we had to teach from empty classrooms in our schools the other days, when we had recess duty responsibilities).
My wife taught a virtual kindergarten class, and having observed her, how she did it, and what she did, I sincerely think she should have been hired to instruct other teachers on how to teach kindergarten virtually, because she was fantastic.
I taught a 7th grade class virtually and I sincerely believe they got as good an education that year as they would have if they were in the regular classroom. The evidence is purely anecdotal, but one of my virtual students won an award as one of the Top 8 students in our entire school board (90,000 students!) when she graduated high school. But I think for most kids, the virtual learning years were absolute and total wastes.
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Bryan Eacret Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 08 February 2007 Location: United States Posts: 773
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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | 3
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Both my wife and daughter work in the local school district. They both say Covid did a lot of damage to the social skills of kids. They are experiencing a lot more instances of mis behavior and lack of reasoning. I think children that are starting out now have been better, but there is a large group moving through grades that Covid did some lasting damage to.
From my experience I think the attachment to screens is doing major damage to our ability to properly communicate. I see it in my own extended family, where people can't seem to leave their phones alone in a social gathering. Whatever the phones are telling them, it's more important than what is actually happening in person. It's very frustrating.
I went to dinner recently and watched a large gathering of people sit down. One couple had an approx one year old kid. They immediately handed the child a screen and proceeded to sit down and enjoy their companions. The group did not use their phones, which was great. However, the kid was glued to the screen the entire time. I told my wife that it was a shame that the baby was missing out on picking up a huge amount of social skills by having it's face in a screen while everyone else was socializing. The baby was good the entire time, but missed out on learning in order to make dinner more convenient.
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 04 July 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 452
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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 4
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A child being handed a screen causes a dopamine feedback loop in their brain that is on the same level as if an adult snorted a line of cocaine. (Source)
Edited by Evan S. Kurtz on 25 September 2026 at 6:53pm
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8686
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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | 5
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Strangely, my son’s school has just moved to touch screen laptops for all lessons. Text books are PDFs They have to use a stylus to write, but it’s a screen. No notebooks allowed. We had to buy the laptop.
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | 6
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Yes, we don’t have textbooks for anything anymore, and I feel it’s become a tremendous educational obstacle. When I taught older kids, it was fine, but I try to limit as much as possible with 5th and 6th graders.
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 25 September 2026 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | 7
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One other thing I want to mention: we bought my son an iPad (his first personal device, an M4 iPad Air) last summer after he turned 11. We bought him his first cellular device this week: an Apple Watch. He gets 20 minutes of screen time a day, which he uses for Spellbound (a Disney scrabble app), Murdle, Wordle, and Duolingo. The watch is so he can text or call us if he needs to, but obviously severely limits use for the kinds of apps and activities a kid can get lost in.
A lot of my students have unlimited screen time and keep their devices in their bedrooms.
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Steven Myers Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 10 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5763
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| Posted: 26 September 2026 at 1:58am | IP Logged | 8
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I agree that screens have had a huge impact on an entire generation. We older people prefer to interact in person, Young people today (under 30) mostly prefer to interact with screens. I think this is a greater impact than the pandemic shutdown, though that didn't help. Kids need to be taught how to interact with each other appropriately. They aren't going to just "get it" themselves. And this gives schools one more thing to add to the list of stuff we need to teach.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11712
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| Posted: 26 September 2026 at 6:50am | IP Logged | 9
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I think i mentioned it earlier, but we are seeing the negative effects of children raised in the age of the screen and social media. Plus adults who are glued to their phones. I see them out shopping phone either glued to their ear, or speaking to someone via earbuds, but they're not interacting with the shopworkers which i find very ignorant. Even worse, chatting to someone in real life, but one eye on their phone.
It concerns me that James says his school is reliant on screens for education, is the art of writing with a pen going to be a thing of the past?
Also regarding lockdown and kids being babysat by screens, and James saying he took his children out for bike rides in the countryside. I am on the local site for the seaside village where we go to on holiday, and it irks me when parents ask on there what can they do to keep their kids amused. Errrrr, from your accomodation turn left and within 100 metres there's a coastal path with stunning views and it's packed with wildlife, turn right and walk another 100 metres and there's a beautiful beach! Right in front is an outdoor pool filled by the tide that you can swim in or sail toy boats, plus rockpools full of sealife to explore. I honestly think a lot of parents have no imagination and would rather have their faces stuck in their phones than make memories and bond with their kids.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8686
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| Posted: 26 September 2026 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 10
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The one thing my son's school has done right with the laptops is to insist they are touch screen and everyone has to have a stylus - so note taking is still hand written.
The one thing he does that I am trying to train him out of, is if I ring him, he doesn't answer and then What'sApps me asking what I want. He is getting better at this, and pretty much answers more often than not, but when he first did this, we had some pretty frank discussions. He has just started sixth form and is joining a few programmes that have aspects of public speaking, presenting, teamwork etc - he chose these with the express aim of getting better at these. I'm really pleased he is taking an active path to improve those skills.
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8701
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| Posted: 26 September 2026 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 11
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"Text books are PDFs They have to use a stylus to write, but it’s a screen. No notebooks allowed. We had to buy the laptop."
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Nobody seems to know how to handwrite in cursive anymore.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 26 September 2026 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | 12
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Cursive is something I didn’t properly learn. From my earliest school days I preferred to print in all capitals. The result is, whenever I attempt cursive it’s almost like the first time, and the results look very much like the scrawl’s of a six year old.
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