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Mark Haslett
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It’s all very simple. Due to genetic mutation, he was born with two portals to
a non Einstein universe where his eyes should be.
The ruby quartz simply has the same ionic vibration as the photon-like
particles of force that are constantly pouring through Scott’s dimensional
face portals. So it abdorbs the impact harmlessly.
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Brian Miller
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Are Alex and Scott still immune to each other’s powers or have they gotten
rid of that?
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John Byrne
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That shot of Scott’s visible eyers skips the fact that his beams are constantly blasting out of his eyes. If it was possible to look at his uncontained eyes, they would be glowing.As a teen, reading these comics, I didn’t give much thought to how Scott’s power worked. Like the Torch’s flames (that burned without consuming him) or Bruce Banner transforming into the Hulk (where did that extra mass come from?) WYSIWYG. Analysis can only lead to problems. Like that time Chris raised the question of how Scott could see with those beams presumably preventing light from entering his eyes.
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Mark Haslett
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I remember feeling very smart and satisfied (and impressed) when I realized
Scott’s power was something different from Superman’s heat vision. (It isn’t
hot, it’s more about the power to blast stuff).
That’s about as far as I like to dig into it.
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Michael Penn
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When I was a little kid, I knew somebody who had the early issue when Cyclops blasted a charging elephant, and it was patently clear to me from the beginning that his power was force and not heat. For me, it remains the defining image too! (I'd upload it but, unfortunately, again I'm getting an error message preventing that.)
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Back then, when anybody outside of cosmic or godly beings had, well, down-to-earth depictions of their powers, this kind of demonstration of what Cyclops could was impressive as anything! As time went on, I really missed that and eventually hated how Cyclops' power was devalued, made less and less impressive.
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Dave Kopperman
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There's some 'universes' where fan-think about the science and other rules governing it can be both fun and kind of useful. Star Trek being the most notable of those. And then there's some where the fan-wonk and the encouragement of it by the holders of the rights can be pretty bad - Star Wars being the worst offender on this front, where entire chapters cease to function as entertainment in their efforts to fill in what they see as those mysteries that need explaining, rather than just things it's okay to accept at face value to keep the story rolling.
DC has definitely fallen to this urge, but Marvel for a long time stood outside of it, even given the stats and such in the Handbook. For whatever reason - maybe it was editorial fiat or lack of fan pressure or what have you - there wasn't ever any huge effort that I perceived to hew to the Handbook as the One True Answer as to, say, who wins in Hulk v. Thing. And the comics were the better for that.
Edited by Dave Kopperman on 24 March 2025 at 3:08pm
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Joe Smith
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Keeping me up at night:
A ‘mutation’ should be an ‘answer’ to an evolutionary’problem’?
Ex: The skin changing color according to equator proximity; the gene that
allowed humans to inhale wood smoke after we split off from the
Neanderthals.
So, what was the need that was so pressing for a pair of eyes that blast
non-stop! Was Scott born in space during one of Corsair’s most
treacherous battles?
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I thought mutations worked more like some random change happens that THEN proves to be beneficial, so it has staying power.
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Mark Haslett
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Joe: Keeping me up at night:
A ‘mutation’ should be an ‘answer’ to an evolutionary’problem’?
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Your thinking of mutations that "breed through" by natural selection.
Lots of mutations are occurring throughout the world, but very very few are ever useful advances.
Professor X and Jean Grey's mutations would possibly be the kind that would advance the species to a new level. Cyclops' eye-blasts, not so much.
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Mutations in the real world fall mainly into three categories: positive, negative, benign. Negative mutations most often kill the “recipient”, but sometimes they can just be inconvenient.
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So at any point and time when Scott is wearing the glasses (with his eyes open) instead of the visor, the concussive blasts are shooting for the short distance between his pupils and the lenses of the glasses. Yikes. I've always been a fan of the premise of the X-Men, I just think it's bullet proof as far as continuing narratives go, but the dual fact that the powers just came to them and that they were a problem to be managed, some with no solution (learn to succeed despite your limitations), was just the cat's meow to my teenaged brain.
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Was the head injury that prevented Scott from controlling his powers (from the plane crash) a Claremont retcon?
It would be fun to see a what if story where Scott has control of his powers and we see him without the glasses/visor.
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