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Posted: 10 July 2025 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

This is causing buzz, apparently. All I can say is SHUT UP!!

Superman is the ultimate American success story: the immigrant who comes here and becomes greater than he could if he’d stayed where he came from.

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Posted: 10 July 2025 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

A point Arnie keeps making about himself as well.
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The NYTimes is going with the buzz and today published an op-ed by an MIT creative writing professor -- My Problem With Superman.

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You might think an immigrant kid like me — who loved comic books and studied them for clues as to how I should conduct myself in this new world, an immigrant kid who was as bedeviled by his lost home world as Clark Kent is bedeviled by his spectral connection to Krypton, an immigrant kid who also thought of his island as a Krypton of sorts (though mine was destroyed not by cosmic apocalypse but by the banal logistics of immigration), who also labored under three identities (I was someone in English-speaking America, someone else in my family’s Spanish-only apartment and someone else in my memories of the Dominican Republic) — would have fallen hard for Superman. 

I didn’t, though. In fact, I was something of the neighborhood anti-Superman. Always ready to inveigh against the Last Son of Krypton, always ready with long arguments laying out why he was dumb. What can I say? From Day 1, dude just rubbed me the wrong way. There was the obvious stuff, like how goofy Superman was as a hero, how ridiculously dated his star-spangled patriotism was — Supes loved a country I’d never seen. My landfill America was way more supervillain territory.

You would think Superman’s immigrant/refugee background would have represented a point of connection, but even that rankled me. Sure we both came from other worlds, but Clark Kent’s complete assimilation, his passing, seemed to me as impossible as flying fast to reverse time.




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Posted: 10 July 2025 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

The MAGA hats want Superman to be Homelander. Since he's not, they're angry.  They're angry Homeland "turned out" to be a villain. Judging from how they think Star Trek and Star Wars are "suddenly" woke, media literacy isn't their strong suit.

Superman being the ultimate American success story is kinda beyond them.

And Arnold is always careful to say he wasn't "self made"--he had lots of help.
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Posted: 10 July 2025 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

And in walks Z-Lister Dean Cain of The James Woods Theatre Company with his view...


https://bleedingcool.com/tv/did-dean-cain-forget-that-his-su perman-went-woke-back-in-1997/
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Posted: 14 July 2025 at 4:05am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

According to Fox News "The Big Weekend Show," if Superman came here illegally, he has to go back.

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Best laugh I've had in a while.
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Posted: 14 July 2025 at 11:22am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Of course he came here “illegally”. Jor-El didn’t aim the capsule at Ellis Island!

Now watch for some creatively bankrupt hack to address this in the comics!

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Posted: 14 July 2025 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

...oh doG no please don't let that happen.....
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Posted: 14 July 2025 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

How can they miss?? It’s right down there with his S meaning “hope”
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Don't give Ben Shapiro any ideas....
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There was a story in the comics that already sort of addresses that
noncitizenship thing in the sense that every member of the UN (this was in
the 1960s ) voted to give Superman citizenship in their countries.
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Posted: 15 July 2025 at 1:25am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Forgot about that one. Can’t imagine modern day DC going in such a direction.
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