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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 05 September 2025 at 2:08am | IP Logged | 1
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The Epstein thing is going to end up with Bills Gates & Clinton in prison and Trump redacted and/or just immune.
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Matt Reed
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No. The Epstein thing will be a non-factor, relegated to 2025 news but not impactful in any meaningful way to 2026. It’s the way politics works these days. Awful, terrible, downright prosecutable shit is brushed aside.
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Conrad Teves
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Do you suppose Massie, in going against the Republican grain dictated by the WH, is gambling Trump will check out sooner rather than later to position himself as a hero when all the bad stuff comes out after his demise? Perhaps in preparation to run against Vance who, as far as I can tell, no one likes?
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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 05 September 2025 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | 4
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I think Massie, Greene, and even Mace are part of a larger, long-term strategy to ultimately grant whatever is released some legitimacy among the MAGA faithful - which is where the Epstein files are even a thing. The general left knows Trump is a sex criminal and takes it as a given that he's in the files but thinks its a small drop in the general bucket of scum, the center has long ago come to the same conclusion about his guilt but doesn't much care, and even staunch conservatives look at it with a kind of realpolitik - so long as Trump keeps delivering on their agenda they'll look the other way. It's only the Bongino/Q Continuum that bought heavily into the ideas that there was a vast sex-trafficking conspiracy* and Trump would expose and punish all of the perpetrators.
The hope that this will somehow bring Trump down is completely misguided. As Matt noted, it won't even really be a ripple in the 2026 midterms narrative; since Trump himself isn't running for anything and his followers are adept at creating even more fantastical pretzels to justify things to themselves, the focus will be... I dunno, the massive Chinese-Australian cyberterrorist attack on the Panama Canal? Who the fuck knows what insanity will be top of the news cycle in 13 months' time?
*Which there WAS, just not the one they were told.
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John Byrne
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Now Trumf wants to change the Department of Defense back into the Department of War. Make sure the World knows how butch he is.
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Fred J Chamberlain
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It’s spot on for a guy who is worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Robin Taylor
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Apparently Trump sent Seal Team 6 in North Korea in 2019 and they immediately shit the bed and killed a boat full of civilians.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 05 September 2025 at 5:19pm | IP Logged | 8
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He reeeeeeeeealy wants to be a nuculer president.
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Brian Miller
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At least he acknowledges he’s not going to get into heaven…
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 05 September 2025 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | 10
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Not quite. He thinks he’s going to buy his way in. Honestly, if Trumf goes to Heaven, I expect to sit on God’s right hand!
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