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Joseph Gauthier
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Rereading the Romita (Sr.) run on The Amazing Spider-man this summer, I'm reminded of the confusion I felt in the mid 80s as a brand new comic book reader--namely that the Spider-man I was reading about off the spinner rack was noticeably stronger than the Spider-man I was reading about in the Marvel Tales back issues I was finding at garage sales and flee markets. 
In those days, it seemed obvious to me that he must have been pulling his punches when fighting the gangsters and bank robbers he so often fought in the early issues, but I had a hard time, initially, wrapping my head around those very same gangsters and bank robbers knocking him out cold when I had just seen him go toe-to-toe with a super powered enemy in a comic bought off the spinner rack.
Of course it didn't take long, even as a twelve-year-old, to realize that he was depicted, for whatever reason, as more powerful as time passed, and it was as simple as that. But that brings me back to my question...do you prefer the Spider-man who could get knocked out by a non-powered gangster, or the Spider-man who could defeat the X-Men (for example). And why? 
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 8:39pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Well, he started out as a teen in High School. And different from most heroes, we got to watch him grow up, graduate high school and college.  That is years of aging and growing to manhood.  He was always going to be getting stronger as he grew.

He went from getting knocked out by street level criminals to being able to knock out a herald of Galactus if you beleive what you read in the funny books (LOL, sorry, couldn't resist).

It is always up to the writer and editor to keep the character within their limits, but when they are as much fans as they are the guys controlling his fate, they are going to keep pumping him up to higher levels.
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Spiders are very weak. But Stan mixed up the strength of the creatures with the estimated strength of their webs. So he gave Peter Parker “the strength of ten men”.

Which works fine for me.

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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 9:08pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

By and large, I preferred the strength level in the earlier days.
As new characters were created, with greater strength, so the strength
levels of established characters increased to match.
But with ever increasing strength, comes the diminishment of the struggle,
and the increase of collateral damage.
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 10:09pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

City bus (with some strain) works for me. Knocked out by a
street level criminal is fine if they somehow manage to get
the drop on him - strength does not automatically grant
invulnerability (beyond what's required to not break your
hand when you punch something!).
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

..and the increase of collateral damage.

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That's an interesting in-world ethics question I've never considered before. I wonder if that is a consideration creators ask themselves when creating a new hero. At the end of the day, though, I hope it wouldn't be applied across the board, because I sure wouldn't want to miss out on the possibility of the Thing and Terrax trading punches in Downtown Manhattan.
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Michael Hogan
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

My first exposure to Spider-Man was in the Sunday comics
from the NY Daily News. In the first panel, he was always
shown holding a city bus over his head. As a youngster, I
figured that put him on Superman's level!
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Posted: 01 July 2025 at 12:43am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

There was a Silver Age Pinup of Spider-Man holding a platform over his head, and standing on it were the “only heroes possibly stronger than Spidey”.  As I recall, those characters were The Thing, Hulk, Thor, Hercules, and Namor.  So I have always viewed Spider-Man’s strength as slightly less than the Marvel heavy weights.
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