What we really need are "Norman Osbourne Hearts Gwen Stacy" t-shirts

or other t-shirt ideas.

Spider-Man sez: hey Kids! Stay in school, don't do drugs, do what your mom tells you to... or I'll swing over to your house in my new techno armor, pop my wrist spikes, and eat part of your face!

Blue Beetle:Better Dead than Ted. With a picture of Maxwell Lord blowing the poor guy's brains out...

How about one with Dr. Light standing in the Superman hands on hips pose and leering above a caption that reads "rec.arts.comics.DC.Identity_Crisis.Metzler.plot.sue_dibney. rape.rape.rape"

Or we could have a picture of Powerman and Jessica Jones and he's telling her to "Bendis Over"...

Or maybe a picture of the Watcher gouging his own eyes out...

They hate you because they're supposed to? What about those who decided to come on over to find the truth and were disappointe with what they found and whilst they don't hate you find they don't like what they find? Is that herd mentality?

They hate you because they're supposed to? What about those who decided to come on over to find the truth and were disappointe with what they found and whilst they don't hate you find they don't like what they find? Is that herd mentality?

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Could be applied to anything, David.  'Those who came over to find etc.' are welcome to their views.  And can fuck off without anyone stopping them.  Why then launch the kind of 'crusade' JB has referred to?  And he is right to feel that there is a vitriolic, deliberate campaign to destroy his career from some of these people.

Not everyone starts a crusade. I've not, have I? I'm just interested because it sounds like there's no middle ground. For or against.

Dave Farabee wrote: Why is that behavior allowed to stand, but I'm called out for defending, without insult, a controversial work?

Ian Evans wrote: Well, because this isn't a democracy in here, I guess....JB supports (or doesn't stop, anyway) that behaviour and disagrees with yours.  He isn't a neutral observer of an argument, he has his side and you have yours.  I think both Mike and Joe (both of whom I like) have stepped over the line pretty egregiously in this thread, but it's not my board.  And JB can put up with whatever he chooses.  Don't like it, don't show up.

I think you're right, Ian. And, truthfully, I'm still not bothered by that Byrne himself should dismiss me - he's the big kahuna here - but if he and his mods are going to lend tacit approval to behavior like Zhang and O'Brien exhibited, the board's effectively become the pit some have accused it of being.

Lies? Acceptable. Libel? Acceptable. Double-standards? Acceptable.

Matt, so sorry I almost disturbed your sleep when one of your board members went nuts, made borderline threatening posts, then took them down to hide behind a wall of cowardice. I just thought you might be interested in doing your fucking job as a moderator. No other halfway decent moderated forum would've let Mike's behavior stand.

Joe Zhang lying in front of everyone? The proof there for all to see? Hey, it's cool! He's part of the Old Boys Club. He gets to pontificate on morality while lying and insnuating I'm a pedophile, but hey, it's a good thing you were there to watch me like a hawk when I dared to ask Mike if he'd read a book. You really are a GOOD GUY, Matt! Tell yourself that. Try to convince yourself I've behaved attrociously when I've done nothing but take an unpopular opinion and defend myself from spurious attacks. Try to convince yourself that your pals are good guys too, even if their behavior is anything but.

You'd think guys who grew up with superheroes would act a bit more responsibly. I showed interest in a work of fiction; they engaged in tacitly approved lies, libel, and cowardice. Even Mike's second "apology" was just another passive/aggressive blow-up - the latest in his long string of them, and just another chance for him to feel sorry for himself. 

It's the behavior of a cretin. As was Zhang's. As was yours, Matt.

But Ian's right, this is Byrne's world, and if that's to be the accepted behavior, I leave the board to this back-patting confederacy. I had some fun for a few years. Nearly made a thousand posts, and still respect many of the posters. Have no plans to join any "campaign" against this board.

But I don't give it any more respect.

(I know, I know, "don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out"... Gimme something original.)

Original enough?