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Jay Matthews
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Leroy wrote:
| Will was rapping before many of the people who insist he isn't a rapper
were themselves rappers or even rap fans. But I know what you mean. |
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He's had that baggage from the start. I was in college when "Parents Just Don't Understand" came out, and from the get-go people where saying he didn't have genuine street-cred. He was kind of the Wayne Brady of rappers.
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Simon Matthew Park
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The Wayne Brady of Rappers?
Good God. What an image!
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Jay Matthews
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Does Brady have to slap a bitch?
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 05 July 2006 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | 4
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slothered
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I know that's a typo, but I really like that word!!
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Jay Matthews
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I totally accepted it as a word. Plus, it made me disdain Hot Dog Pie even more.
Edited by Jay Matthews on 05 July 2006 at 7:02pm
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Matt Linton
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| Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 6
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A rap song that encourages rape AND the brutalization of women. Lyrics edited for language.
Guilty Conscience (Eminem and Dre)
"Now listen to me, while you're kissin her cheek
and smearin her lipstick, I slipped this in her drink.
Now all you gotta do is nibble on this little b****** earlobe...
(Yo! This girl's only fifteen years old. You shouldn't
take advantage of her that's not fair)
Yo, look at her b**h...does it got hair? (Uh huh!)"
Later, in the same song, it advocates shooting your wife when you find her in bed with another man.
"What am I sayin? Shoot em both Grady, where's your gun at?"
Even though the song is presented as a debate between the good (Dre) and the bad (Eminem), in the end the bad side wins.
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Jay Matthews
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No fair, Matt. Not only did you answer the challenge with a good example, you further blew his point by using and Eminem song. (Eminem is white for those of you scoring at home).
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Matt Linton
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Ah, but Eminem WANTS to be black!
Seriously, though, it's an easy point to refute, given that I can name a Beatles song, of all things, that advocates the brutalization of women (Run For Your Life, for those playing at home).
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Leroy Douresseaux
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No fair, Matt. Not only did you answer the challenge with a good example, you further blew his point by using and Eminem song. (Eminem is white for those of you scoring at home).
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My point is not blown at all. It shows that Matt could make the statement about rap artists and violent content towards women and know what the **** he's talking about.
It's the ones who generalize about rap and don't know shit about rap that I'm talking about. Holla! Now, blow on that!
I'm officially out of control.
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Leroy Douresseaux
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As for Will Smith's having baggage from the beginning, that's probably true. If I remember correctly, he and Jazzy Jeff won the first Grammy given for rap, and I think they were booed when they accepted.
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Jay Matthews
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| Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:28pm | IP Logged | 11
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Leroy wrote:
| My point is not blown at all. It shows that Matt could make the
statement about rap artists and violent content towards women and know
what the **** he's talking about.
It's the ones who generalize about rap and don't know shit about rap that I'm talking about. Holla! Now, blow on that! |
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<<first obeys and blows on it. HONK!>>
So your debate would consist of the members of the human race coming forward, one at time, and identifying a rap song. You then say "I wasn't talking about you. Next!!"
Maybe, just maybe, the people who complain about rap lyrics have heard a lot of disturbing crap.
And what about the Eminem thing? He's the most acclaimed, most popular, and and is as offensive as any of them. Is the coast clear to criticize rap without being considered racist?
(By the way, I like some it, and even some of the roughest stuff has artistic merit)
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What exactly is hot dog pie?
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see hot dog pie thread
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