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Jay Matthews
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

 Robert Wren wrote:

What exactly is hot dog pie?

 

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see hot dog pie thread


Early nomination for "Most Unhelpful Post."
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Leroy,

I think you worded your challenge the right way to make your point.  It would be hard to make the case that a particular artist truly is "encouraging rape".  But in modern society all it takes is one person to take it that way and then we got a problem.  This one's kind of rough so you know what to do if you want to see it.

MIND OF A LUNATIC by The Geto Boys

Lookin through her window, now my body is warm
She's naked, and I'm a peepin tom
Her body's beautiful, so I'm thinkin rape
Shouldn't have had her curtains open, so that's her fate
Leavin out her house, grabbed the b**** by her mouth
Drug her back in, slammed her down on the couch
Whipped out my knife, said, "If you scream, I'm cuttin"
Opened her legs and commenced the f*****
She begged me not to kill her, I gave her a rose
Then slit her throat, and watched her shake till her eyes closed
Had sex with the corpse before I left her
And drew my name on the wall like helter skelter
Run for shelter never crossed my mind
I had a guage, a grenade, and even a nine
Dial 911 for the b****
But the cops ain't s*** when they're f***** with a lunatic

Well, the song is called MIND OF A LUNATIC.  And you don't want the rest of the lyrics.  Also, this is not an undergound group, the Geto Boys sold very well in their time.
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

[Will Smith has] had that baggage from the start.  I was in college when "Parents Just Don't Understand" came out, and from the get-go people where saying he didn't have genuine street-cred.

I guess it's a question of who's talking the loudest and what voices a person chooses to accept as credible.  Smith has always been a valid, respected voice in Hip Hop to those with any sense of its history.

Ah, but Eminem WANTS to be black!

I think I know you meant this in jest, but there are too many people out there who actually believe it to be true.

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Jay Matthews
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Okay, Pete.  Leroy wasn't talking about you, either.
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yeah, sorry. In the time it took to write that post the thread took off and explained itself and I caught it too late.


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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Definitely kidding, Wallace.  I'm biracial and accused of "acting white" all the time, so that's never something I'd throw at another person.  Except Vanilla Ice.

Edited to add:

And Justin Timberlake.


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Jay Matthews
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

 Pete York wrote:
Yeah, sorry. In the time it took to write that post the thread took off and explained itself and I caught it too late.


Don't go all sheepish.  I was getting in another dig on Leroy.
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:13pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

 John Byrne wrote:
slothered

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I know that's a typo, but I really like that word!!


Not a typo -- word of my own invention, used as a sound effect of a one-
eyed protoplasmic creature oozing across a floor. I've also used it to
describe an indescribable horror slothering across a floor towards a
hapless protagonist in a Lovecraft parody I wrote.

There are a number of friends of mine who think it's hilarious to walk up
behind someone and grumble, "slother, slother" in their ear. It's a voiced
"th" sound, like in "there" or "feather."

You're more than welcome to use it.

Slother, slother.

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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Hmmm...  Slother...  I like it!
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 9:04pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Ian Evans: as I posted, I was conscious of the problems of tone we sometimes have, so made sure that I was as outrageously OTT as I could be

Hey, there's nothing wrong with that!  I do it all the time...

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"Guilty Conscience" is more ABOUT rape and murder than IN FAVOR OF rape and murder.

Yes, I'm an Eminem fan - because I truly think he hates himself, and I can relate to that.

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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 1:10am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

So, no comment about Rich Johnson's pro-Byrne article? (link page 14)

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Well, it certainly doesn't take long for anything John Byrne does to make the gossip columns, huh?

He does make a comment about John knowing that he'll get a reaction when he says stuff, but that John doesn't think he should, as it's just his opinion. I would never presume to know how Mr. Byrne thinks, even if I knew him better, so I couldn't say how true that is or not.

I do know how I think, though, and there is something sadistically pleasurable about stirring a pot of nerd stew! If I were in John's position, I honestly believe the temptation to ruffle feathers of overly sensitive nerds on the internet would be a favorite hobby of mine. I'd be thinking shit up all the time to torture them with, and then I'd play innocent when the lynch mobs came after me...lol

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