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JD Morrow
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 7:49pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Hi, Gail!

You would be a welcome presence here, so I hope to see you post a bit more. That's sad to hear that industry pros have such an attitude, especially when you consider that John Byrne was the biggest thing in comics when most of them were at their most impressionable ages.

John's also accused of being "sexist", but I haven't seen it. In fact, he hasn't had any ego problems being the artist for a woman writer, as he's worked with you twice now. Wouldn't somebody with a sexist attitude be above working under a woman's direction?

Some of these stories about John Byrne, invented by people who don't even know the guy, really are disturbing sometimes. The internet sure has created it's share of ugly people, huh?

Anyway, congrats on your new series. I'm a Marvel guy, 100%, but I broke down and picked up the first issue. I would also like to congratulate you on getting the opportunity of a lifetime for the second time, working with one of the greatest legends the field has ever known.
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Gail Simone
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:01pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

As to the charge of being sexist, all I can say is that I was genuinely surprised by the genuine anger John had about the treatment of female characters in comics on a level of basic fairness. I hear lip service about this from male creators all the time, but as I say, John was willing to put his work where his mouth is, so to speak, and make comics to fix it.

 

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Joe Franklin
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:01pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Gail,

Thanks for posting those insights.  It's a shame that people are digging for dirt like that, but it's even more shameful when they're supposed to be professionals.

I enjoyed your ACTION COMICS run and I'm enjoying THE ALL NEW ATOM work.  You and JB are producing some very fun comics! 

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Joe
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:03pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

JB's one of the few sincere guys in comics, and will always be punished accordingly for that ! 
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Emery Calame
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Opinions are like nipples.

Everybody's got one.

What?

Oh sure like you have MORE than one. Riiiiighghttt....

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Robert Oren
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

you know guys....this does get sad after awhile......these people that say these things have nothing better to do than to sit in there sewing circles and spin yarns

of people they wish they were. charges smarges. if he was such a #$% he sure would not be here everyday with 22000 post talking with us.

all the things that make mankind pathetic....jealousy,envy,selfhatred,want,greed

these are what modivates these rumors....kind of sad.

by the way gail.....i love your work ....and have a crush on you

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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Thank you, Ms. Simone.
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Mark McKay
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I echo Wallace's comment - thanks.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

But Kurt is always the classy one!

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He's not the only one, Gail. Thanks for the 2 cents.

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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:08am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Gail es a true bless for the comic industry!


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I will never, never, ever understand the scorn and hateful resent of JB out in comic book land.  I really, really don't understand it.  Anybody with a functioning brain cell can see that all of the Bad Byrne stories are completely without merit and are LIES.

Right after JB had posted some pencils of pages at the start of his JLA run, I was on the phone with a minor-comic Pro and he mentioned to me that a friend of his had seen the JB JLA pages and that they were awful.  JB was "phoning it in"...no backgrounds, stock poses, stupid panel layout and that he was just doing it for the money.  I retorted that I had seen about a dozen or so pages that JB had posted to the board and NONE of those charges were true.  He then came back with, well, he only showed you guys the GOOD pages.  I got tired of dealing with him, cancelled the commission I had just ordered, and hung up the phone. (and that bastard still owes me $200 worth of commissioned art--guess I'll write it off since I ordered it in 2001!!!!)

I've spoken with Denny O'Neil, Mike Carlin, Roger Stern and others about working with JB and all of them had nothing but NICE THINGS to say about JB.  These are people who I look up to, and who's opinions I respect.

And...of course, all my experiences on the several JB Message Boards have been NOTHING BUT positive experiences and I truly look forward to interacting with JB everyday.

Eventually, hopefully!, these rumors, stories and lies will be put to bed and JB will be honored for the truly wonderful work which he has produced.  I sincerely hope that JB lives a long full enough life to see this.

But what do I know...I'm a mindless drone.

MPH

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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Unfortunately, a few of my friends in the business have developed a bad habit of jokingly playing up the Bad Byrne stories -- only to realize too late that their audience did not realize they were joking. Paul Kupperberg, for instance, when he was my editor on WONDER WOMAN found the perfect outlet for his deliciously twisted sense of humor in telling everyone who asked that working with me was pure hell and all the stories we but pale shadows of the terrible reality. It wasn't until I been doing the book for a couple of years that he suddenly realized people were taking him seriously.

Truth to tell, I have occasionally been guilty of something not unlike this myself. Someone would approach me at a Con or signing, to tell me that they had heard from a friend about some good deed I'd done that had that friend singing my praises, and I would chuckle and say "Careful! You'll ruin my reputation!" Unfortunately, it would seem more than a few to whom I said that took it literally.

From time to time, as a kind of balance to this, I have tossed out what have been dubbed (not by me) "Byrne Challenges". This is when I ask anyone who has a "Bad Byrne" story to come forth an repeat it on whatever message board I happen to be frequenting. I make only two stipulations: the story must be first hand, and the story must be true. The last time I did this a "fellow professional" leapt into the fray with no less than two stories -- neither of which were first hand, both of which were false. When I called in someone who happened to have witnessed the reality of the reported events, to inform the poster that his story was in error, that poster said he didn't care, and that he intended to keep telling the stories anyway.

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