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John Byrne
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According to what I was taught at ACA, the original use of “cartoon” was to describe the preliminary sketches for a painting. Like so many words/terms the use expanded over the centuries.
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 21 June 2026 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 2
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I was a teenager reading about Michelangelo when I first discovered that "cartoon" did not originally refer to Bugs Bunny.
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Michael Penn
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< Byrne is both boastful and modest >
Hmm. A whole lot more the latter rather than the former, if these two adjectives must be applied.
Mostly, he just comes off as... honest.
If a comicbook he worked on was good, he'll say it. But if he feels the credit must be shared or even be more attributable to other people, other factors, he'll say that too.
Honest to a fault, sometimes, maybe?
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John Byrne
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A tendency to shoot from the lip…..
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Michael Penn
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Brahms was famously like that and thus used to leave social gatherings with polite bow, announcing, "and should I have forgotten to insult anyone, then I ask for forgiveness!"
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 21 June 2026 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | 6
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I am leaving on a cruise Tuesday, likely before the mail would arrive.
Very poor planning on my part!
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Enjoy the cruise! (Where are you headed?)
As for me, I get mine on Wednesday!
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Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.
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I can't read the article. The site keeps refreshing.
I look forward to reading these volumes. I was there when these pages first started appearing. Fun stuff!
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Scott Sackett
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I just have to say as someone who was reading the pages when they came out, they really were a nice distraction during covid.
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John Byrne
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It’s kinda funny to look back to my first run on UNCANNY, that somewhat frustrating time when only hardcore fans knew who the X-Men were. Even when I “moved up” to FANTASTIC FOUR most civilians had no idea who the characters were. Vague memories of the first animated series, at best. “Oh yeah. Stretcho and Rock Guy and…..”I spent many years being asked what I was known for, and getting blank stares when I said “X-Men”.
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Michael Penn
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Remember this ad?
It's from 1980, five years into the New X-Men, Marvel still having to promote them, and using Dave Cockrum art from four years earlier. THis is just my experience, but I was the only person I knew reading these issues. Sometimes I wonder how many readers who came later had false memories of being in on it, inflating the immediate impact considerably beyond what it really was.
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John Byrne
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When he was the editor on the book, Roger Stern got so exasperated with Dave’s drawings still being used whenever X-Men clip art was needed, he literally confiscated all of it, and finally my work started being used!
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Jason K Fulton
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So this is Roger's fault:
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