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Jason Ladwig
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| Posted: 20 January 2023 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | 1
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Of course, there was that one shared ride to an airport, where we ended up harmonizing on a medley of Broadway show tunes….============
Ha! A master concert I'm sure. Thanks for sharing.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 20 January 2023 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 2
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It was fun to see the occasional Byrne/Pérez banter taking place at the ol' BYRNE WARD.
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John Wickett
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"I will say something somewhat sacrilegious - I do not at all see the appeal of his 70's - early 80's work."
George got vastly better over time, but even his early work was better than most. He instantly improved Justice League.
Something about Dick Dillin's art just never resonated with me. I think he drew everything well- there's nothing specific about his work I would criticize, but it just left me feeling flat. I was never excited to see a Dick Dillin drawing, except for some covers that were inked by Giordano (which were great).
George immediately brought an energy that was missing before he got there.
If you want to see early George at his best, check out Deadly Hands of Kung Fu.
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Eric Smearman
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Never saw that Dillin JLA splash, before. What a treat!
I was a Dick Dillin fan as a kid but, admittedly, there
could be a stiffness or awkwardness to his figures.
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John Wickett
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| Posted: 20 January 2023 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | 5
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I really like Dillin's rendition of Power Girl in that last panel on Page 3, but that's the only thing that stands out to me about those pages.
In comparing Dillin's version of the pages to George's version, I think the biggest thing I prefer about Perez is the page design. Each of the characters on Dillin's pages are well drawn versions of those characters, but the way George poses them, and where he locates them in the panels seems much more dynamic, and much more natural.
The way Dillin poses the characters, especially on the right side of the splash page, where they are strangely hunched over to fit into the space where he's drawn them, makes them appear stiff and unnatural compared to the way they look in the Perez splash.
Edited by John Wickett on 20 January 2023 at 7:49pm
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Dave Kopperman
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Weird aside, but I just did a quick internet dive on Dillin and was surprised to learn that he was 51 when he died. But maybe ever more surprising was the image on his Wikipedia page, which - if accurately dated - was taken when he was about 47. People just used to look much older back in the day?
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Jason Czeskleba
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| Posted: 20 January 2023 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 7
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It's interesting to contrast the approach the two guys took on their versions of that JLA splash page. Dillin's is more the classic DC approach. We see the action from a distance, as though we are bystanders watching from afar. Whereas Perez takes a Marvelish approach... we see things from the heroes' perspective, as though we are right there amid the action, standing between Superman and Doctor Fate.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 20 January 2023 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | 8
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"People just used to look much older back in the day?"
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It's true. When ALL IN THE FAMILY started in 1971, Carol O'Connor was 47 and Jean Stapleton was 48. Ed Asner was 41 when THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW started in 1970.
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Brian Miller
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I notice that all the time
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 January 2023 at 1:25am | IP Logged | 10
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Drift alert.
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 21 January 2023 at 1:41am | IP Logged | 11
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When George Perez started working for DC it about doubled the number of DC comics I would buy in a month, some I'd buy just for his cover, definitely the case with some DC digests! Somehow I didn't get to the New Teen Titans until #12, and I can't explain it even to myself. He was so 'right' on Justice League and especially JLA/JSA team-ups, that might be what I'd want more of by him (well that and one more Man-Wolf), after all we did get a return to The Avengers in the late '90s.
If I buy a comic starring character(s) I didn't like much previously that means something and Neal Adams, John Byrne and George Perez would get me to do that.
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Peter Hicks
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| Posted: 23 March 2023 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 12
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Marvel has announced that they have accessed some unpublished George Perez artwork, inked and coloured it, and will be using it for Variant covers this summer. Avengers, FF, and Hulk will be included.
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