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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 5:38pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Under a section titled "State Sovereignty," the Texas Republican Party platform states: 

"Pursuant to Article 1, Section 1, of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right of local self-government. Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified. Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto."



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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Texas wants to be "great again" perhaps? Which was when exactly you might wonder. Could the CSA be reborn, the flag has remained very popular with some.
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As a former conservative (very former) I find so much about the modern Republican party and conservatism to be vomit inducing. Between those sucked in by rampant misinformation and those willing to spread it there is very little room left for rational actors on the right anymore.

As far as Texas seceding from the Union; aside from it having the magical ability to just do it being a myth, I wish they would. Allow them to become an independent nation. Have the federal government immediately cut of access to any roads, airways, pipelines, the electric grid (not all of Texas is covered by ERCOT), and anything else that connects Texas from the rest of the country. Put a small portion of the Navy off their coast to blockade them. Have the military retrieve all Texas National Guard equipment provided by the federal government. Cut them off from the international banking system. Lay heavy sanctions on the state and it's leaders since succession is equivalent to treason. Then let them rot for a few years before allowing them back in...... I'm kidding (kind of) but I really wish Texans would shut up about their fictional right to secede at any time.


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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

What. The. Actual.




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If Texas secedes (like Michael said, they can't), they'll come to a hard realization that they're screwed: No more Social Security, Welfare or Medicare/Medicaid (due to not being U.S. citizens) or federal aid in the event of an emergency or disaster. Food costs will go up as they'd have to `import' any foods not produced in Texas. Taxes will also go through the roof. And if Mexico (government or drug lords) decides they want to take over Texas, good luck with stopping that. 

Just to put salt in the wound, lets kick all Texas' sports teams - college AND pro - out of their respective leagues if they manage to secede. And require Texans to have a passport to enter or exit the U.S. (No U.S./Texas dual citizenships allowed!)

They decide they want back in as a state? Then the price should be that every politician who voted to secede is forced to resign and Texas has no one at all in Congress until the next session.




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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

If Texas leaves, the Democrats win the White House and the House of Reps every election without fail, so hey, go for it!
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Posted: 20 June 2022 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Texit will go just as well as Brexit, I imagine.
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Posted: 21 June 2022 at 1:58am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Brian nails it.  If Texas could actually succeed in seceding, they'd immediately become worse than many third world countries.  Yes, they have their own electrical grid, but their infrastructure is severely lacking.  I know its impossible for them to do it, but I'd love to see them try (and fail)   if only to see the many reactions from politicians within and outside their borders.
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The thing about the article JB posted for me is this (much more broad than Texas alone):  The Republican Party has gone off the deep end in its support for a dictator.  The signs have been there for a long time, much longer than Trump, but along came someone who was able to galvanize a shrinking minority in America and then use a loudspeaker and amp to make it seem like they're the majority.  The scary thing?  It's working.  Pile on supply chain issues along with increased prices for everything at the grocery store and the pump (something no president, Democrat or Republican, can control) and it's an inflection point during a midterm election year.  

There's an excellent Op-Ed in WaPo today wherein it lays out the stupidity of voting out elected officials based solely on things they can not control (gas prices, produce and meat shortages, etc).  It's behind a paywall, but if you subscribe (like me) but haven't yet read it, it's here.  While you know where the Dems stand and can judge them on that, the Republicans haven't offered an official party platform in over three years.  THREE YEARS.  Even steadfastly refused to put one out during a presidential election. Just counted on "America First" and "Make America Great Again" to carry the load. Jesus. Minus that, you know what their platform is:  regulating a woman's body, burning books, controlling curriculum, telling kids that they can't get needed help during a time where they're just beginning to understand their own bodies, telling out LGBTQ kids that they are unable to participate in sports according to the gender that they feel that they are, cutting taxes on the 1% while holding down wages for the middle and lower class, demonizing immigrants (mostly those who are brown and black), calling COVID "the Chinese Virus" for several years thus escalating anti-Asian hate, and that all elections are stolen/rigged/cheated unless they win.  THAT'S the Republican platform. That is, apparently, what will once again "Make America Great".  It's a national platform that they refuse to formally promote as a party but one that they've steadfastly endorsed in various forms since at least 2016 and one that has surely been propped up by this bullshit resolution written by the Texas GOP. See how I tied it altogether?  

So, sure.  Vote out a Dem who can't control gas prices and vote in a Republican who supports all of that.  Awesome.  Good ill-informed job!
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Kevin>>If Texas could actually succeed in seceding, they'd immediately become worse than many third world countries.  <<

Yeah, their per-capita GDP is almost $2000/yr lower than the US average, so they're dragging the average down.  Going solo would be really bad for them. Might be compounded by all that cheap labor wandering across the border might be less inclined to go to another poor country.

I expect US arms an defense contractors would also be required to leave pending trade treaties with a foreign country.

I suppose they could do like Costa Rica and spend most of their money on education, etc. instead of building a military. <-ha!

Losing the Texas electoral votes would also make it really hard for the GOP to win a Presidential election, like ever.
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Posted: 21 June 2022 at 7:42am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

But @ least they would have their guns. & proof that an armed militia was
required because those commies in the White House, well, you know .
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