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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

For a party that keeps preaching “less government!” they sure are forcing
the government down women’s rights. And these idiot women cheering
have no clue their rights have just been shat upon.
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The temerity of Alito to include this quote in his opinion:

"We must . . . exercise the utmost care whenever we are asked
to break new ground in this field, lest the liberty protected
by the Due Process Clause be subtly transformed into the
policy preferences of the Members of this Court."

While breaking new ground in torpedoing a right granted by his predecessors in the Supreme Court purely down political lines.
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The hysteria here is incredible. Don't people realize that supposedly enlightened Europe is stricter on abortion than the US? The Missouri law prohibits abortion after 15 weeks, European countries like France limit it at 12. Only a handful of countries like North Korea allow it at 20 weeks. I guess the rest of the world has been like The Handmaid's Tale all along.
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:20pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Jim.

In France the prohibition is after 14 weeks now. Not 12.




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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Don’t cloud the issue with facts, David.
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Usually I don't make comments about US politics because honestly it's sometimes really difficult to understand.

But I think what's happening now is worrying.
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

 Jim Burdo wrote:
Don't people realize that supposedly enlightened Europe is stricter on abortion than the US?

Forget the rightness or wrongness of this decision, what about this or this or that! Not possible to look at the decision on its own merits?

Europe by the way is not a country. Needless to say, it's massively disingenuous to make your (debatable) claim that Europe is stricter on abortion than the US, when we all know the situation in this regard in US is in imminent flux. Many states are in the process of making abortion outright illegal.

Let's take France, which you cite, or Austria, or Italy. These countries say by law it is a right for a woman to have an abortion in the first 90 days. How does that stack up with Texas or Kentucky or Oklahoma or South Dakota? Mississipi intend to change it to 10 days. The Missouri law prohibits abortion after 15 weeks, you say.

This is what the AG of Missouri says:



Are you plain mistaken or just a liar, Jim?

Going back to Italy, where abortion is a right by law. This has come into question on a few occasions and decided by referenda, allowing the people to decide what they want. How would the US people go about changing the Supreme Court's decision, Jim?
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 4:44pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

“Sanctity of life” in a state that still has the death penalty?
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The U.S. Supreme Court was officially broken with Trump's third appointment after Obama was denied even to put one forward to be heard, as well as Bader-Ginsburg earlier refusing to be replaced by a healthier and younger liberal Justice. A ban on abortion was a done deal perhaps just with Trump's second appointment Kavanaugh, but a fanatical strict catholic Judge for Bader-Ginsburg's seat totally sealed things. Bigly applause at the super-spreader in the rose garden, remember? Definitely fait accompli right then.

The window for a fix or expanding the number of seats is closing fast with nothing on the horizon that I know of. Another once widely respected and valued institution broken, oopsie.

Neo-cons have to (at least pretend to) unconditionally love at least four things... the flag, the Christian Bible, the fetus, and the gun.

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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 5:41pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

 Jim Burdo wrote:
The hysteria here is incredible. Don't people realize that supposedly enlightened Europe is stricter on abortion than the US? The Missouri law prohibits abortion after 15 weeks, European countries like France limit it at 12. Only a handful of countries like North Korea allow it at 20 weeks. I guess the rest of the world has been like The Handmaid's Tale all along.

As disingenuous a post as I've ever read.  Period.  Set aside what other countries do or do not do.  This decision is the pretext to take things farther, not to just limit but eliminate abortion access.  You know that.  Everyone does.  To suggest otherwise is decietful at best.  
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Posted: 24 June 2022 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

He knows that, Matt.
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Matt Reed
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Of course he does.  I said as much.  But Jim somehow thinks that if he just says a thing, then it's true no matter what the actual facts are.  Sound familiar?
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