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Jason Ditzel
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Posted: 01 August 2022 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Hi JB.

Currently rereading the FF run where J. Ordway inked your pencils. What  caused the FF inking switch to Ordway at that point?


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Posted: 01 August 2022 at 6:47pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Honestly don’t remember!
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I remember seeing that first issue where Ordway took over the inks and was really taken aback. It didn't seem like a combination that would work but it really did. I loved the stories they did together, suited the style well.   < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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Posted: 03 August 2022 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

It was that transition that made me realize that I very much enjoyed JB's inking. I hadn't thought about it until then, detected something different, and then learned a little bit about the art process of comics.


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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 03 August 2022 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Ordway is a great inker but felt almost slightly too... I dunno, volumetric? For JB's FF. I'm certain I'm in the minority on this, but at the time, I really loved the delicacy of Al Gordon's inks on the couple of issues he did. I'm sure I'd feel differently, now.
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Posted: 03 August 2022 at 8:01pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I felt the opposite. Disliked Gordon and absolutely loved Ordway. Still feel the same way.
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Posted: 04 August 2022 at 6:40am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

That's one of the joys of comics (or at least it used to be)--seeing pairings of different talented artists.  Sal Buscema and John Byrne (perhaps because they were always so clean with clear storytelling) were my favorites to see paired up with others.  I absolutely loved (and I read Sal did too) Klaus Janson's inks on Sal's pencils.

For JB, it was amazing to see the variety of super-fine-line Terry Austin inking versus the gritty/pencil-like Tony de Zuniga!  Gene Day was another one-time favorite!  There were plenty of others to like too, but Jerry Ordway was fun for the run in question.  


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On "Fantastic Four", I liked Ordway's inks over JB's pencils. Later, on "JLA", I thought he was way too overpowering and changed JB's art to look more like his own (which is not what I wanted from a comic touting JB's art on the title).

It's my own guess, but I think the Ordway on the earlier FF comics was a younger artist who possibly treated JB's pencils with more reverence and therefore more faithfulness. By the time of "JLA", Ordway was a "name" within the industry in his own right, and I figure that's why he had no apparent issues with how heavily he imposed his own style over JB's pencils on that project.


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Hm. Interesting, Matt.
I was thinking perhaps he was given breakdowns as opposed to full pencils and thus his style evinced more weight than it might otherwise have.   < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
Wild speculation on our part either way :)
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Eric Jansen: I absolutely loved (and I read Sal did too) Klaus Janson's inks on Sal's pencils.
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Me too! Their run on The Defenders together is one of my faves.  I also liked Janson's inks on George Perez on Logan's Run around the same time.

It's always interesting to see how different inking styles influence the finished product.
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As a kid, before I fully understood the different jobs—credits being something new in the early Sixties—I was puzzled as to just what the “inker” did. For a while I thought it might be the coloring, tho I was not sure how color could make such a difference to the look of the art.

(Remember, the colorist was not, at first, included as a separate credit.)

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It's my own guess, but I think the Ordway on the earlier FF comics was a younger artist who possibly treated JB's pencils with more reverence and therefore more faithfulness. By the time of "JLA", Ordway was a "name" within the industry in his own right, and I figure that's why he had no apparent issues with how heavily he imposed his own style over JB's pencils on that project.

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Well, this is the guy who redrew a Curt Swan Superman to look like his own.

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