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Paul Wills Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 August 2018 Location: United States Posts: 842
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Posted: 15 January 2023 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | 1
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Included in my top five favorite AF issues was issue #5 with Puck in the hospital. For me it read like one of those classic older black and white films I love - action and suspense and twists upon twists! To top it all off it had another bonus story to boot! There's no way I would see something like that in comic book form today.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4496
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Posted: 15 January 2023 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | 2
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That cover to #5 is a real standout. #3 another, #6, #23...
I liked Marina's eyes! :^)
The Beyonder would've kept me from buying #28 though. :^(
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Richard Stevens Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1927
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | 3
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Perhaps rather than seeing Alpha Flight as "the team where they die," it's possible to look at #1-12 as an extended origin. Either the origin of the team, or Heather Hudson as a leader – in this case, Mac is Uncle Ben and his death is critical to the dynamic and should always be left alone.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 8:17pm | IP Logged | 4
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The notion of Alpha being where characters die was far from my mind. My interest was that they all be quirky and “different”, not the 2D cutouts who’d tussled with the X-Men. That was how Northstar became Gay, Aurora suffering from MPD, Puck a little person, etc.
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Greg McPhee Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 August 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5065
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | 5
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I think killing Guardian off was for the best. Mac was both kind of boring and uninspiring. Without him, characters could grow into leadership roles, or become more problematic, as their personalities dictated.
Upon re-reading the series you do see Heather is arguably the centre of this book from the very beginning. She starts off as an optimistic cheerleader, and slowly builds a sense of responsibility for everyone she knows. She lets tragedy wreck her for a while, and then she picks herself back up, and is pretty inspiring.
Just a shame Bill Mantlo decided to put her in the suit. There was no need for that.
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Greg McPhee Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 August 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5065
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | 6
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Just something else regarding Heather and the battlesuit:
I'd have to check, but wasn't it mentioned that Mac's suit was the only one in existence, and that Delphine Courtney merely duplicated the powers of the suit, and hadn't actually re-built the suit as that knowledge died with Mac?
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 5798
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | 7
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Wow...genuinely surprised that anyone would find Mac boring. I really liked him! I thought he had sort of an "everyman" vibe (at least as much of one as somebody capable of designing and building such a sophisticated and advanced weapon suit can have!) and found his discomfort and difficulty with leadership to be pretty intriguing. I still feel the gut-kick that his sudden death gave me (Thanks again, JB!).
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7480
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 11:00pm | IP Logged | 8
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Heather getting the suit never made sense.JB has addressed this before; Delphine Courtney was a robot and her body was rebuilt so she could duplicate Mac's powers. She didn't have a suit. So there was nothing to "rebuild" after Jeffries dismantled her rather violently. They would have needed to build a Guardian suit from scratch. Not that it's impossible but that's not what they say they did. The stated explanation has that huge logic flaw (above) so... Beyond that, her getting a suit and becoming a superhero didn't make sense on its own merits. Heather wasn't a fighter or a battlefield leader; she was more like a den mother, keeping the team together and tending to their needs rather than telling them "okay, Walter, fight that guy, Aurora, go left..." etc. And for the record, I never found Mac boring. He and Walt were my favorite Alphans (and remain so). I could see the rationale for his death but it was NOT because he was boring.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | 9
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Edited by Andrew Bitner on 27 January 2023 at 5:11pm
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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 January 2023 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | 10
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Yes.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2023 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | 11
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Edited by Andrew Bitner on 27 January 2023 at 5:12pm
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Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2023 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | 12
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I don't know if you ever said how Puck came to be. Is there anything you would be willing to tell us?
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