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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 14 September 2024 at 12:15am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

TODAY: Bomb threats close schools and offices after Trump spread false rumors about Haitians in Ohio.

Just like J6, he pours more gasoline on the fire.

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Dave Kopperman
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Even more, the people he’s empowered in government.  I was fucking nauseated to see that Ohio’s own AG has also been amplifying this.

The MAGA era cannot end soon enough, in every sense of the phrase.
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Will MAGA die with Trump?
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It’ll at least diffuse into a bunch of smaller groups of varying unpleasantness but less focused political might, once the figurehead is gone. I honestly don’t see who could pick up the avatar/figurehead/god emperor mantle from Trump, and (mercifully) neither does the GOP.
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Why would he think Haitians should be sent ‘back’ to Venezuela?
The guy cannot string two things together to save his life.

Whenever we discuss this whole Springfield affair here in the UK, we simply
cannot get our heads around any of it. This is the pinnacle of racist baiting,
& as the bomb threats are showing, will only lead to a very dangerous place.

We had riots in the UK this summer, & hundreds of idiots who allowed
themselves to get caught up have been sent to prison.
If Trump loses again, & this is by no means a given (I’m with JB on this,
2016 casts a long shadow in my memory), I think the Jan 6 attack will seem
like nothing but a warm up for what this idiot will stoke up, & this whole
Springfield rubbish is part of the fire stoking.

You have months of this to come.
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Brian Miller, I sadly don't see MAGA dying with Trump.

HOWEVER.....I think once he's gone, they'll eventually get weeded out. 
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Posted: 14 September 2024 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Trumf will never die.
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As long as there are die hard anti-abortion and anti-immigrant votes to be
marshalled, there will be a tea-party/Maga candidate.

New grievances and new avatars of anger will come to sustain it. But when
Trump dies, it looks like the movement will lose a lot of momentum. He has
been special in his ability to beat down any inner-party opposition while
keeping voters with him. No one else comes close at that in the current
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Posted: 14 September 2024 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

 Mark,

Trump was NEVER anti-abortion.

He never gave a fuck about the movement. I'm sure there are a few women who are now in their 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s that he paid for the procedure.

It's why 45 is so twisted when asked any on the subject.


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….he paid for the procedure.

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My request of the cosmos: let one or more come forward..

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Posted: 14 September 2024 at 5:20pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

JB,

One can only hope.

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Also, Jon Stewart gave the perfect summary of 45s lack of responsibility for the Jan 6th insurrection 



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James, that is well established. There is a big difference between being
anti- abortion and marshaling anti-abortion votes. None of the architects of
the current political movement actually gave a rats ass about ending
abortion. The populist-frar-monger leaders with brains know that actually
resolving the problem is a sure way to lose their power.

What is sad is that the religious nature of this particular issue means that
most voters who care about ending abortion don’t care about the actual
convictions of their leaders. They believe that a sinner is sent to be the tool
of God and that Trump’s imperfections only add to his overall Status as a
weapon of God.

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