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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 August 2024 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | 1
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Unfortunately, 538 has decided to completely suspend its simulations until Harris is the certified Democrat candidate. Not sure of the logic behind that decision, but that is their business.
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | 2
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So far, it looks like most of her possible VP candidates are either AGs, have military backgrounds, or both.
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | 3
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Choosing a VP candidate for Harris is an incredible chess game. Who can bring in a demographic, or carry an entire state, that Harris might not be able to do on her own? Everyone is realizing that Trump’s pick of Vance is just “more of the same”, and he won’t bring anybody in the door who was undecided about Trump.
But if Harris wins, the VP must leave their current position, and will that create a new problem for Democrats? Eg. Arizona went Democrat for President in 2020 for the first time in decades, so there is much talk of inviting Senator Kelly to be VP to help carry the state again. But with a 50-50 split Senate, maybe it is more important to leave him where he is.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2164
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | 4
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Peter,
With your opinion, especially with the democrats trying their damnest to hold on to the senate, she could be going towards Buttigieg.
But, is America ready for gay man to hold the second highest office in the country?🤔
The racist white folks lost their minds when Obama was living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Can you imagine a Black woman and her Jewish husband there?
Along with a gay second-in-command?
The MAGAts would go nuclear. 😡
Edited by James Johnson on 03 August 2024 at 8:20pm
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | 5
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BREAKING NEWS!!!!
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David Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 8:27pm | IP Logged | 6
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Buttigieg never fails to impress me. He's a policy nerd who loves retail politics. He reminds me of Bill Clinton, but unlike Clinton, he stands behind his positions rather than softening them to placate Republicans in a doomed effort to triangulate.
I think he would remind many voters of their daughter's high school boyfriend who they loved and always wondered why it didn't work out. If America is ready for any openly gay VP, it would be him.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | 7
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Unfortunately, I don’t think America is ready for that. I’d love to be proven wrong, tho.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | 8
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So, the clownish felon is scared to debate the Democratic Presidential nominee... and a prosecutor.... not even surprised.
-C!
Edited by Charles Valderrama on 03 August 2024 at 10:21pm
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Casey Sager Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 11:16pm | IP Logged | 9
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I like Buttigeg, but IMHO he doesn't move the needle. Shapiro might help lock in PA and that would be huge.
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David Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 August 2024 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | 10
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I’m not sure there’s a winning play for Trump on the debates. As damaging as the weakness and insecurity telegraphed by this Kübler-Ross bargaining has already been, it’s still probably considerably less than the damage that could be inflicted in an actual debate.
Assuming a debate ever takes place, beyond the predictable prosecutor v crook dynamic, Republicans have been selling Harris as a vacuous, inarticulate clown. The public will judge any performance failure short of Biden’s in the last debate a win on the GOP’s own metrics, no matter how hard MAGA spins it.
Although, as someone always points out, debates don’t win the election.
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 August 2024 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | 11
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He wants the debate on FOX with a full audience and the same rules as the one he had with Biden.
Of course he does. Because it would be an audience completely hostile toward Harris and biased toward him, eating up whatever nonsense he spews.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 August 2024 at 9:40am | IP Logged | 12
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Yeah, he's ducking her the same way he ducked the draft.
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