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Darren Taylor
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| Posted: 30 August 2024 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | 1
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Question for John.
Referencing Alpha Flight.
I've always been curious about the decision of the creatures, like Tundra being devoid of colour. Was this your call? It was really effective.
Also, was there something that inspired this choice?
Thanks,
-Darren
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 30 August 2024 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | 2
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It was definitely my choice—and surprisingly there was no pushback from Marvel. (See below.)I asked for the complete absence of color to play up the mystical qualities of the creatures. My inspiration was an (in)famous story of Barry Windsor-Smith using the gradual disappearance of color in a Conan story to represent the disappearance of sound. As the story goes, he came into the Office to find the editor adding back the colors.
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Darren Taylor
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| Posted: 30 August 2024 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | 3
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Thanks for the insight John. The choice was really impactful, making those creature stand apart from everything else.
Opened my mind to viewing the process as an outcome. Before that landed in my brain, I was convinced the art was all about the process but this showed me, 'no', the process feeds the finished product and the finished look was the actual art form.
Then I stumbled on to Wally Wood and the way he used the art form in what seemed to me to be a playful manner.
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Josh Goldberg
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| Posted: 30 August 2024 at 7:52pm | IP Logged | 4
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Speaking of coloring choices, JB. I've noticed that part way through your run on Fantastic Four, you changed the way you drew eyebrows. In the beginning of your run, everybody had black eyebrows. Pretty standard for comic books of the time (and later, as far as I know).At one point, you started leaving the eyebrows open for color. Most noticeable in characters like, Sue, Johnny, and Alicia. If you remember all these years later, why?
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John Byrne
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One day Howard Mackie referred to “John Byrne eyebrows,” to which my reaction was “Huh?”Whatever I was doing, I was not aware I was doing it!
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Colin Ian Campbell
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My inspiration was an (in)famous story of Barry Windsor-Smith using the gradual disappearance of color in a Conan story to represent the disappearance of sound. As the story goes, he came into the Office to find the editor adding back the colors.* Do you mean the Kull story "The Skull of Silence", drawn by Berni Wrightson in Creatures on the Loose #10?
Edited by Colin Ian Campbell on 30 August 2024 at 10:57pm
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I remember liking the uncoloured panels in Captain America #249.
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John Byrne
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Interesting to see that as a Wrightson story. I had been told it was Smith.
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Darren Taylor
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John, I don't recall but did you ever showed Snowbird, in her (for want of the correct term) 'God' form? There were hints at the change in her face but always in shadows.
It's one of the things I recall from when I was a kid reading these, thinking that those were leading to a reveal...might have been that those were part of the Sasquatch/(God name I don't recall) arc.
Just wondering out loud.
Edited by Darren Taylor on 10 September 2024 at 3:36pm
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John Byrne
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When she was being tortured by the other gods, I’m pretty sure she was in her god form.
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You should totes draw that up bro.
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……..?
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