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John Byrne
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Looking at some pictures of the renovations under TRUMan in ‘47. Yikes!!!
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 24 October 2025 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | 2
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Astonishingly gutted, the White House was back then.
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John Byrne
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When my friend Ron was playing Scrooge in A CHRISTMAS CAROL at Ford’s Theatre I signed up for a White House tour. Sadly, I was underwhelmed. I could not stop thinking about the Truman renovations. “None of this is real.”Which was also what I was thinking in Ford’s.
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Michael Penn
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The White House in most ways is a Ship of Theseus. Rather a bummer, yes. I mean, compared to how much of the original White Tower in London still remains -- bummer!
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Edward Aycock
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So when Jackie redecorated the White House, she was really only updating twenty years worth of decor?
*edited as I called her "Jackie O" which she was not known by yet.
Edited by Edward Aycock on 24 October 2025 at 9:35pm
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John Byrne
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When I visited the Tower of London one of my favorite moments was walking up to an outside wall and putting my hand on a stone that had been set in place by some Romans a few thousand years before.
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Ryan Maxwell
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The changes are still better than what the British did with the place.
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Trevor Smith
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"When I visited the Tower of London one of my favorite
moments was walking up to an outside wall and putting my
hand on a stone that had been set in place by some Romans a
few thousand years before."
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Last year, I *finally* nailed down the (relative) spot in
Lucca where Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus met (found in a
book, confirmed by a historian friend of a friend). That
was one of the most, I don't know, "moving", I guess,
moments of my life.
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Bill Collins
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"Ship of Theseus" over here we have "Trigger's Broom" from
BBC comedy Only Fools and Horses. In it road sweeper
Trigger (ironic nickname cos he's not too bright) claims to
have used the same broom for 25 years despite it having
numerous replacement heads and handles.
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