In fact, I did react poorly, and realize it - partially, I deleted my posts, Luke, because I was just flying off the handle and talking crazy shit, but more importantly, because I don't know how I fell into debating Alan Moore - I care more about some shit I stepped in 5 years ago than I do about Alan Moore - and yet there I was, trapped in some stupid debate I didn't even care about.

But what's more - and here's where Dave lost it all - he started that same bullshit that the scum on the other boards do - takes something I said, and throws it back at me out of context - I brought up serial killer, Hitler and NAMBLA, yes, and yes, they're loaded examples, but I brought them up to make a point about bad logic.  Not to compare him to them, but to show that everyone can start right, and think they're right, but if you can distance yourself from your position... well...

But here's the thing - for as long as I've seen Byrne posting on the internet, people have taken his exact words and done the same thing - thrown them back at him in ways that make him out to be the racist, the asshole, whatever.  And in the last year or so, they've been doing it to me and a few others on here. 

My reply was to not give them the pleasure of it this time.  They'll have nothing to quote from.  If they're going to make shit up, they'll have to do without help from me.

But Dave, you're right - my apology was pretty half-hearted, and I did act wrong, so... I will accept a banning.  Bring it on, mods.  Ban me.  We must keep Dave happy.  Ban away.  I don't give a flying fuck.  I enjoy posting here, but if I've finally crossed some line, then I'm ok with saying "So Long" to you guys. 

First people wanted to see super heroes fuck.

Now they supposedly want to see Alice in Wonder Land and Dorothy of Kansas fuck. {sarcasm} Great. Progress.{/sarcasm}

Personally I want to see Marvin the Martian fuck but that's mostly out of morbid curiosity regarding the potential humor of it (Ow! You're lying on my hair! Wha? You don't even HAVE hair!) and there's really no point now that Chuck Jones and Mel Blanc are both dead anyway.

Bring on the Sexual Adventures of Paddington Bear(from when he was a cocaine addicted dupe of the CIA penetrating UK security at the height of the cold war) and woe to any that are so base and tasteless, and simple, and stupidly parochial as to raise an objection. No one can hope to stand in the way of such a fundamental force for change and progress. Why that's practically book burning.  

No doubt "the Sexual Adventures of Paddington Bear" will be the artistic pinnacle...nay..the very capstone of the Cenozoic era. It will be the finest work of any mammal!  What fool would dare seek to rob all humanity of that? Y'know. By criticiszing it on high conceptual grounds alone. Crazy.

OMG! It's Tropic of Cancer all over again! Except with childhood fantasy characters! DEFEND THE LIBERTY CON QUESO DESPUES!!!

Once, on this very board and during a discussion on some thread (about something), I commented on a remark that JB had made and he responded by comparing me to Kreskin.

It still royally cracks me up whenever I think about it.  Funny stuff!

I've gotten to see / meet / interact with the Byrnemeister twice at Dragoncon in Atlanta.   I purchased an original She-Hulk page from his graphic novel right out of his hot little hands.  I got to see him "produce" a Thing sketch which he auctioned away, and I got to say directly to himself how much I had enjoyed his work for many years.

For all of the reasons that he has revealed for not doing conventions any longer, I really dislike all the haters.  JB has been doing some of the best artwork of his career on Doom Patrol, Blood of the Demon, and from what I've seen of the All-New Atom, that book as well.

I drool everytime he posts his latest commission and pick up a Powerball ticket weekly in hopes that I can get one for myself someday.

I read through this multi-page thread and am left with the conclusion that -yes, indeed - many so-called "fans" are simply stupid.

Odd, that, isn't it, JD?  The common mindset on the net is that we're all drones here on the JBF, agreeing with everything and anything that JB has to say.  We ban people for nonconformity and slap down anyone with a dissenting opinion.  Not true at all, of course, but they can't see the herd mentality in themselves.  Just look at any of a number of threads on Newsarama or the DC boards (when such threads existed).  Detractors outnumber supporters 2:1 and they shout down anyone who even remotely disagrees with them.  That's the truth.

Pot/Kettle anyone?

What really warrants a ban..aside from the obvious? There are times during some of the debates that I would like to respond, but I feel because of some of my more pitbullish ways on past iterations of JB boards that I might get banned for it. I really enjoy this board..so I end up biting my tongue because I don't want to offend the wrong people.

Casey