Dave Farabee wrote: Why is that behavior allowed to stand, but I'm called out for defending, without insult, a controversial work?

Ian Evans wrote: Well, because this isn't a democracy in here, I guess....JB supports (or doesn't stop, anyway) that behaviour and disagrees with yours.  He isn't a neutral observer of an argument, he has his side and you have yours.  I think both Mike and Joe (both of whom I like) have stepped over the line pretty egregiously in this thread, but it's not my board.  And JB can put up with whatever he chooses.  Don't like it, don't show up.

I think you're right, Ian. And, truthfully, I'm still not bothered by that Byrne himself should dismiss me - he's the big kahuna here - but if he and his mods are going to lend tacit approval to behavior like Zhang and O'Brien exhibited, the board's effectively become the pit some have accused it of being.

Lies? Acceptable. Libel? Acceptable. Double-standards? Acceptable.

Matt, so sorry I almost disturbed your sleep when one of your board members went nuts, made borderline threatening posts, then took them down to hide behind a wall of cowardice. I just thought you might be interested in doing your fucking job as a moderator. No other halfway decent moderated forum would've let Mike's behavior stand.

Joe Zhang lying in front of everyone? The proof there for all to see? Hey, it's cool! He's part of the Old Boys Club. He gets to pontificate on morality while lying and insnuating I'm a pedophile, but hey, it's a good thing you were there to watch me like a hawk when I dared to ask Mike if he'd read a book. You really are a GOOD GUY, Matt! Tell yourself that. Try to convince yourself I've behaved attrociously when I've done nothing but take an unpopular opinion and defend myself from spurious attacks. Try to convince yourself that your pals are good guys too, even if their behavior is anything but.

You'd think guys who grew up with superheroes would act a bit more responsibly. I showed interest in a work of fiction; they engaged in tacitly approved lies, libel, and cowardice. Even Mike's second "apology" was just another passive/aggressive blow-up - the latest in his long string of them, and just another chance for him to feel sorry for himself. 

It's the behavior of a cretin. As was Zhang's. As was yours, Matt.

But Ian's right, this is Byrne's world, and if that's to be the accepted behavior, I leave the board to this back-patting confederacy. I had some fun for a few years. Nearly made a thousand posts, and still respect many of the posters. Have no plans to join any "campaign" against this board.

But I don't give it any more respect.

(I know, I know, "don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out"... Gimme something original.)

Original enough?

I think that the internet has blown any criticsms of Mr Byrne way out of proportion.

I stand by my "seperate the art from the artist sentiment", and I wish people could do that.

My first american comic was a Spider-Man drawn by JB (a fact I only discovered after my frst visits here), twenty years later I can still see nearly every panel in my minds eye.  Coming here and finding that the artist holds views that I don't agree with and has said things I'd prefer he hadn't does not diminish the story in my mind.

For that I'd like to thank him.

How anyone could have missed Perez on the Titans would be beyond me. Wasn't that one of the best selling comics of that era?

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i did!

Seriously -- you became a Forum member just for that? You think Eminem reads these posts?

This question comes from personal experience?