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Michael Roberts
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… a sort of “both-sides” form of centrism…
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As opposed to what?
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A nonpartisan perspective devoid of bothsiderism, I suppose. I’ve grown skeptical of centrists myself.
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John Wickett
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"I’ve grown skeptical of centrists myself."
Skeptical that they exist, or you don't trust them?
Personally, I don't mind that the networks have a point of view, but there are two huge drawbacks: first, many people can't tell the difference between news and commentary. Second, biased networks have a tendency to ignore facts or stories that might be deemed favorable to an opposing viewpoint. That does the public a disservice.
Both problems are fixable. A network should have two divisions; one for news and one for commentary. News shows should present facts without opinions or spin. Commentary-based shows like Hannity should be free to present as much opinion as they want, but their hosts should stop pretending to be news anchors.
Edited by John Wickett on 12 May 2023 at 9:08pm
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Charles Valderrama
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The twice-impeached ex-prez just got charged with SEVEN counts on a trio of grave charges for keeping sensitive national defense documents and trying to cover it up while under federal investigation. LINK
He is charged with Willful Retention of National Defense Information, conspiracy to Obstruct Justice, and Making False Statements.
Expecting more deflection, propaganda, and lies from him.
-C!
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Mark Waldman
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Unfortunately won't matter. He can still run for office with a reasonable chance to finish the destruction he started. If elected, he will dismiss his case. The trial wouldn't start until after the election anyway, with the NY case going to trial end of March. While another blight on his legacy, it won't affect him and his cult already in line ready to do battle and defend him. It's amazing how entire GOP gets in line to rally behind their monsters. Pence on the election trail saying Trump wanted him to go against the Constitution but immediately says it's a travesty his former boss was indicted. DeSantis has already said the guy who calls him "little dick" and is his biggest obstacle to get the nomination will be pardoned if he gets into office. The US has lost its way. Here's to a Joe win in 2024 or we're in deeper doo doo than we already are. Happy Friday, everyone!
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Brian Miller
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If only he would die already
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John Byrne
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Not sure I want that. His death would almost certainly canonize him among his followers, leading the the Gross Old Party to lean even harder into his madness.
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Rebecca Jansen
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The pace of the justice system on Trump you'd think we lived for a thousand years, as if three, four, five... six(?) years were no big deal to see something done to stop an active anti-democracy movement.
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Charles Valderrama
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In our history an ex-president (Nixon) has been PARDONED for his crimes so what's happening now isn't that surprising.
Our Justice System has always been compromised.
-C!
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John Byrne
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Nixon was pardoned before the charges against him were even defined. As was pointed out at the time, he could have committed murder in the White House and he would have been absolved. As Trumf himself has said, to accept a pardon is an admission of guilt.
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Brian Miller
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And now two more lawyers have quit. Maybe the evidence really is that
good and they’re jumping off the Titanic immediately after the iceberg.
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John Byrne
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Show of hands, now. How many of you REALLY expect Trumf to face any consequences out of this?
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Brian Miller
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I really don’t but I don’t want to abandon ALL hope.
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