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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | 1
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I always thought that Giant-Man would crush any buildings that he is
standing on.
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He would. But he doesn't. And that is part of the magic of comicbooks!
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Chris Geary Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | 2
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I find it strange that there are some things we readily accept, yet others we cry out that it's just not realistic.
Man inhaling special gas to make himself big - fine.
Man catching on fire and able to fly - no problem.
Psychopath, with retractable claws, having indestrucable metal bonded to his bones - Cool.
Hot Model marrying whiny photographer - gimma a break!!*
The chances are that this is all down to the individual involved in reading, but I think that this usually comes from the fact that if we know that it's totally fantastical then that makes it easier to believe. Whereas is it's something that we could possibly relate to in reality, then it has to be more believable. Like the story that William Goldman tells about the filming of the river crossing scene in 'A Bridge Too Far.' He reasoned that no one would believe a second crossing through the torrent of bullets and tank shells would take place, even though it did in real life. (His book puts it better)
Excuse me if it's going off topic, but has anyone out there got any 'That's just not realistic!' moments?
*I personally thought that was the best thing ever. Although it has given me a slightly false impression of reality. 'There's hope for us all!!'
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 3
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JB wrote:
(Altho, notice the left-left, right-right gaff. . . ) |
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I must confess to not knowing what you're referring to.
I do agree that it's a great shot. Strangely, Ross's Giant Man looks more otherworldly than his Galactus.
Chris wrote:
Hot Model marrying whiny photographer - gimma a break!!* |
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I don't think it's that it's unbelievable but that it affects the dynamic of the character.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 19 February 2009 at 2:28pm
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Greg Woronchak Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 4
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Thank you kindly for the answer, JB.
Kirby and Buscema (and Kane, and the list goes on <g>) seemed to have a knack for drawing figures that fit well in a super-hero 'world'. Their use of proportion, forced perspective, and highly exaggerated poses served to stress the power and drama in almost any given panel. Even regular folk looked 'cool', dammit! <g>
It seems to be a lost skill nowadays, and either something a comic book artist 'gets', or just doesn't.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 5
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Even regular folk looked 'cool', dammit |
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Agreed. I particularly like how John Buscema rendered civilians.
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Chris Geary Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | 6
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Paulo,
I agree that it does affect the character dynamic. He's not a total losr anymore. That's why I liked it. It falsely gave me hope. I know that from storytelling point of view it screwed everything up. But I like hope.
And if JB hasn't posted a response while I'm typing I'll like to take a stab,
I think that JB is referring to the fact that Giant-Man has his arms and legs are going in the same direction on both sides. It should be Left leg forward, right leg back, etc. But I suspect that Alex Ross' model kept falling over posing for the shot.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | 7
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It should be Left leg forward, right leg back, etc. But I suspect that Alex
Ross' model kept falling over posing for the shot.
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Were that true, you'd fall over every time you walked!
We normally walk right arm/left leg forward, and the reverse on the other
side. Try walking right-right/left-left and notice how "unnatural" it feels.
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | 8
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" I particularly like how John Buscema rendered civilians."
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One thing I always had to give to Buscema. By just looking at the character's faces in a panel you could tell the good guys from the bad guys.
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Chris Geary Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | 9
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It should be Left leg forward, right leg back, etc. But I suspect that Alex Ross' model kept falling over posing for the shot.
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Were that true, you'd fall over every time you walked!
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A feeble attempt at humor on my part.
Chances are that the shot was chosen to show off the entire body. Otherwise there would be either the right knee, or left fist, would be right in the forground of the picture being taken.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | 10
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QUOTE:
I agree that it does affect the character dynamic. He's not a total
losr anymore. That's why I liked it. It falsely gave me hope. I know
that from storytelling point of view it screwed everything up. But I
like hope. |
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I'm not sure if loser is the correct term for Peter Parker. I think he was just a guy who had to make sacrifices because of who he became. When he married the wealthy, voluptuous model, he was no longer making those sacrifices. That's the dynamic that was being changed.
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I think that JB is referring to the fact that Giant-Man has his arms
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That was my guess too; evidently the correct one. I think, though, that Giant Man is not necessarily captured mid-stride but has perhaps stopped to survey the area, thereby rotating his torso. The pose seems more natural to me considering he's straddling two buildings rather than walking.
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Greg Woronchak Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | 11
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I'm trying to think of the last comic book that gave me a sense of grandeur; the New Teen Titans/X-men team-up book pops to mind, as well as FF 243 <g>.
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Charles Jensen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2009 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | 12
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Maybe that's what Liefeld was going for with his
"stylized" anatomy--Grandeur...
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