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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | 1
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I agree, Vinny. I always think of it as blue/dark blue.
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 2:04pm | IP Logged | 2
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Hard to see this as black...
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 3:37pm | IP Logged | 3
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I've never been able to get my eyes to see a costume that's black with blue highlights as "black." No matter how much black shading is used, I see it as blue. Black Bolt, Black Widow... their costumes look blue to me as drawn/colored in the comics.
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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | 4
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Ditto Jason.. Black Panther's costume used to confuse me it would switch back and forth between gray and blue highlights.Havoc is the one character though that seems to stay black.
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Chris Basken Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 5
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A lot of people had this problem, and it eventually Flanderized into the comics themselves. Spider-Man's costume was originally red & black. The Beast was originally a kind of gray-black, but the blue highlights overpowered him so much they had to come up with a convoluted explanation for it in the movies involving Mystique.
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Stephen Robinson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | 6
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The worst thing for me about the "Flanderization", as Chris calls it, is that the costumes don't just go from black to blue but often from black to *light* blue (Angel's outfit above and often Spider-Man's costume).
Useless trivia: Even if I've been exposed to the "Flanderized" costume first, I still prefer the original, black version when I see it. JB's FF uniforms are a great example.
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Bob Simko Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 6:12pm | IP Logged | 7
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Where's that Magneto panel from?
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 6:33pm | IP Logged | 8
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Avengers #110.
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 October 2014 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | 9
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You know, with that OHOTMU image (which if I remember correctly was drawn by Kerry Gammill), I could see it as black.....IF the entire costume was that color (i.e. no white in the center). The Black Panther was often colored the same way, but obviously his name hard-wires your decision to consider it black, plus his costume is that color all over. But Angel's white stripe is throwing me off. A stark contrast such as black/white should really have been rendered as fully inked, ala Havok - nobody ever confused his costume's color, I'm sure! And it's stranger when you consider that both costumes came from the same artist, just issues apart.
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Leigh DJ Hunt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 23 October 2014 at 5:01am | IP Logged | 10
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I'm another whose brain is just indoctrinated to see those costumes as blue not black. Even when I've been told otherwise on here and even when it's in the name (Black Bolt for example) I still see only blue!
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 23 October 2014 at 5:31am | IP Logged | 11
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As a kid, I never gave much thought, if any, to the coloring conventions. They just made inexplicit sense to me.
I knew Bruce's hair wasn't blue. I knew that the night sky wasn't blue (or olive in the next panel). Did I know that his robe was blue (or was it?) and his costume black (or at least parts of it were), or... ? I don't recall ever really wondering.
I'm sure had I seen in a real-life interpretation just black instead of black-blue, it wouldn't have looked right to me either, though. That's probably why I thought Adam West's costume was correct.
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Robert LaGuardia Byrne Robotics Member
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I also find it hard to think of Angel's costume as black. When Wolverine is in his brown costume colorists use brown to highlight his black mask. I like the way it looks whether it makes sense or not. Blue highlights would clash with the brown and orange.
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