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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Brazil Posts: 12912
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:23am | IP Logged | 1
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I had some thoughts on the aging fanboy demographic the other day. I was thinking how at some point, I began following the X-Men stories believing they were heading to some kind of big climax, all-out war with the humans, or something. Maybe, THAT'S why once comics lost the notion of "illusion of change" (which I wasn't aware of at the time) the audience stuck with them. I mean, if month in, month out, Superman is going to defeat Lex Luthor, at some point, most people will think they've seen enough of it. But if the audience believes the comics characters are "growing" and "changing" with them, they stick around for the duration. Whis is just plain wrong. So, continuity gave birth to the fanboy?
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Patrick Drury Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 December 2005 Posts: 695
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 2
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I dont' find the term "graphic novel" to be elitist. I use it when describing a graphic novel and use comic book when describing a comic book. I use both when discussing comic with my non-comic reading friends. It sounds like some of the people you guys are taking issue with are using the term incorrectly.
The term "civilian," though, makes me cringe every time I read it here.
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Bill Lukash Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1762
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:32am | IP Logged | 3
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This could almost be titled "10 Things That Indicate You Shouldn't Be Writing Comic Books."
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Matthew Hansel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3469
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:34am | IP Logged | 4
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The term "civilian," though, makes me cringe every time I read it here.
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Why?
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José Emilio Amo Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 February 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 2472
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:46am | IP Logged | 5
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(7) You wonder about the sex lives of the characters.
(7 1/2) You wonder about the sex lives of the readers as you.
(8) You wonder about the sex lives of the creators.
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You never worry when the hero is in a "death trap"
I remember Phoenix and Captain Marvel, and since then, I always worry when the hero is in a "death trap" ;-)
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Patrick Drury Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:46am | IP Logged | 6
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"Why?"
Feels a bit elitist and overkill. Non-comic readers works for me. "Civilians" kind of implies the whole "clubhouse" mentality a little too much for me.
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4598
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:50am | IP Logged | 7
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the only one I have a problem with is #1 WHEN a writer half-ass references science in the story to explain something - i.e.. Morrison says the Flash's density goes up as he approaches the speed of light - which instantly makes me think "But then he would either have to have to be adding MASS, or else his volume would start shrinking to the point that he's a compressed particle" -- if they just said Flash runs faster he has a harder impact, i wouldn't have any problems.
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Rob Hewitt Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 11 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 10182
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:52am | IP Logged | 8
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Not to fond of civilian myself. Graphic novel? I don't use it much-they don't make too many true graohic novels today. Most are trades, and graphic novel seems to be the default term.
My wife took the air out of the balloon out of graphic novel when she spent a month making fun of me (before she was my wife) for using the term. I said some movie was based on a graphic novel (maybe Road to Perdition???) and she said "What's that?" I described it, and she said "Oh, a comic book. Graphic novel." with a smirk on her face "Come on." I guess she thought I was trying to make something sound more fancy than it was, like when I went to Sardis 5 years ago and I ordered something that sounded pretty fancy-some kind of chopped steak and shoestring potatoes, and I got a hamburger and french fries for my $25
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Mike Sawin Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 11 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 766
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:54am | IP Logged | 9
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I never worry about a death trap, because I always wonder how the writer will solve the problem.
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Matthew Hansel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3469
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:58am | IP Logged | 10
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Feels a bit elitist and overkill. Non-comic readers works for me. "Civilians" kind of implies the whole "clubhouse" mentality a little too much for me.
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I'll disagree and just ask if you feel that way when the military or the police or the government use it?
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Patrick Drury Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:01am | IP Logged | 11
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No, but I don't really think of the differences between comic book readers and non-comic book readers the same way I think of the differences between military/police and non-miliatary/police.
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Matthew Hansel Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:04am | IP Logged | 12
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I'm a government bureaucrat and we refer to people as "civilians" all the time.
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