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Mike Baswell
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Posted: 03 April 2007 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | 1  

Just finished reading JB's entire run on the series again over the last few
days and I must say it was a wonderful experience.

Some things that really stood out for me on this outing:

1. The "you're such a good friend" speech that Diana gave Mike. I've heard
just that same speech too many times in my life and it really hits home.

2. The 'softer' look of some of the profile and head shots of Diana. Gives
her a classic, almost 40's look. (I don't know if I'm describing what I see
correctly, but there's just something there.).

3. The way the entire 3 year run feels like one cohesive story when you're
done.

4. The way JB 'gets' writing kids, or teenagers at lease. Cassie seemed like
a real girl of that age.

5. The way JB gave credit to those who came before in the chronicles of
Wonder Woman(and the Demon and New Gods) every chance he got. A
little thing like that makes me want to go seek out the original source
material.

There were a ton of other moments during this reread that made me just
pause and smile, too many to mention. All I can say is thanks once again
JB for a job well done!

Anyone else like to share fond memories of this run?



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I love the Hippolyta stuff. I love that JB amped up Diana to god/demi-god power levels. I liked how Diana was often shown battle worn and "dirty". Cassie was  agreat addition. I liked it a great deal overall. I wasn't a fan of the Donna part.

I own a page with Sinestro...
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I remember being eleven years old and, having really enjoyed the death of Superman storyline, picking up the VR(?) Doomsday issues off of a rack at the local grocery store and really enjoying them. Superman transplanting the tree to the Kent farm really stuck with me as a nice piece of characterization. Good stuff.
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JB drew a kick-ass Doomsday!

Diana played as a bonafide super-hero! And a really tough one, too.

Hippolyta as the Golden Age Wonder Woman. Alongside the JSA.

A Sugar & Spike walk-on!!

 

It was a really fun run. And all too brief.

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A Sugar & Spike walk-on!!


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More of a toddle-on
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It was a really fun run. And all too brief.

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But longer than my run on UNCANNY X-MEN!!
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I loved to "meet" Cave Carson and his crew!  The three animal-headed aliens are also favorites of mine.  Very cool origin for the Invisible Plane.  And Dark Angel.  Let´s not forget her! 
 
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It was fun to see JB use captions with those little hands and pointing fingers. 

Were those originally typical from all DC titles or particular to the Infantino Flash? 
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Can you tell I love this run? 

In fact, I got two double-page spreads hanging in my living room...  
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JB, a question about number one on my list above. Have you been on the
receiving end of a few of those yourself? Or do all women just say the exact
same thing during that speech? It was almost verbatim to what I've heard
before.
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This was just a great adventure, on one of my all time favorite super-
heroines.

Mr. Byrne just nailed it in respects that Wonder Woman had really lost her
comic book appeal, and he put her in fun adventures and gave her a
voice.

Favorite tidbits:

1. The virtual reality bad guys, Sinestro! Doomsday! Seening Mr. Byrne
draw these guys was just SO COOL, especially since Sinestro hadn't been
seen in any form for awhile.

2. The larger "W" breast plate. I hated how some artist just didn't get how
it should be drawn, and drew it so dainty.

3. The larger wrist cuffs. Updated the look, and really butched it up a
little.

4. Wonder Girl...the adventure with Decay is the stuff that comic books
should be. Fun fun fun. Too bad Wonder Girl these days is such a stretch
from where she started.

5. Wonder Woman's larger than life pony tail when she raids that bar.

6. Gateway City. Fictionalized cities always work better in the DCU (to me)
and it was great for her to get her own city, for whatever little length of
time happened anyway.

I could come up with tons more, but those really stick out to me. I was
glad to be there while it was happening!
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JB, a question about number one on my list above. Have you been on the receiving end of a few of those yourself? Or do all women just say the exact same thing during that speech? It was almost verbatim to what I've heard before.

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What can I say? I write what I know…

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Well it helps to know I'm in good company then. Thanks much!
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I hate how JB made a wonderful twist and created the WWII Wonder Woman out of Hipolyta only to have her killed off not long afterwords by a different writer. I was devistated. I was looking forward to learning more about Hipolyta and loved seeing her  as Wonder Woman. She was a complety different type of Wonder Woman.

JB I have been wondering though, why did you feel the need to bring back a Wonder Woman for the 1940's? Also why use Hipolyta for that?

 

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I have been wondering though, why did you feel the need to bring back a Wonder Woman for the 1940's? Also why use Hipolyta for that?

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I thought George's one "mistake" in rebooting Wonder Woman was making her only 25 years old when she left Paradise Island. I preferred the idea of a Diana who was thousands of years old (as, if I recall correctly, she was in the TV series). From that angle, I would have liked to have seen Diana having been Wonder Woman in WW2, and be returning to our world in the reboot.

Not having that option, I took the next best course, and had Hippolyta fill that role.

Now, if there was just some way to get Superman and Batman back there

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This was the only monthly comic I bought in the mid to late 90s. I loved that Diana's mother had been the Wonder Woman of WWII. An elegant solution, as far as I'm concerned. I was also pleased with the resolution to the continuity nightmare that is Donna Troy.

JB, was there a specific reason why you altered Wonder Woman's trunks so the multiple small stars were replaced by a few large ones?

 



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 QUOTE:
I thought George's one "mistake" in rebooting Wonder Woman was making her only 25 years old when she left Paradise Island. I preferred the idea of a Diana who was thousands of years old (as, if I recall correctly, she was in the TV series). From that angle, I would have liked to have seen Diana having been Wonder Woman in WW2, and be returning to our world in the reboot.


Yes. Exactly. That would've been perfect.

Here's a thought experiment -- imagine JB doing the Wonder Woman reboot, and George Perez doing the Superman reboot...
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The "just a friend" speech is one of the most perfectly conceived and usually fantastically executed "outs" for women ever devised. I wouldn' t be surprised if women held secret meetings to initiate other blossoming girls into the cabal that introduced this particular crushing logical but Darwinistic assessment of any male they find undesirable sexually.

Of course, during these ceremonies, all the women masters are beautiful, wear only partially revealing robes, and the nubile virgins they indoctrinate all look like Jenny Agutter from LOGAN'S RUN.

 

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Well that just conjured a helluva mental image Chad. Thanks!
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JB: I thought George's one "mistake" in rebooting Wonder Woman was making her only 25 years old when she left Paradise Island. I preferred the idea of a Diana who was thousands of years old (as, if I recall correctly, she was in the TV series). From that angle, I would have liked to have seen Diana having been Wonder Woman in WW2, and be returning to our world in the reboot.

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JB wrote:

"I thought George's one "mistake" in rebooting Wonder Woman was making her only 25 years old when she left Paradise Island. I preferred the idea of a Diana who was thousands of years old (as, if I recall correctly, she was in the TV series). From that angle, I would have liked to have seen Diana having been Wonder Woman in WW2, and be returning to our world in the reboot.

Not having that option, I took the next best course, and had Hippolyta fill that role."

JB, was there any thought to sending Diana into that past instead of Hippolyta? I am curious as to whether it was something you offered and was turned down by editorial of if you just went with Hippolyta from the get-go.

A fun run but too short it fely like you were just hitting your stride at the end.

Best,

Kyle

 

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JB, was there any thought to sending Diana into that past instead of Hippolyta?

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No. I wanted Wonder Woman to be part of the JSA for several years, and I did not want Diana to be "gone" for that long (even tho, just as I played it for Hippolyta, the time away as perceived by her friends would have been virtually nothing.)

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Time for me to reread that Wonder Woman run.  Hmmm...  This weekend looks good...
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Its a fun run...and the Neron storyline was great as well. It was just really
neato to see Mr. Byrne draw and write him, and make Artemis into a likeable
character.
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…and make Artemis into a likeable character.

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Pitched an Artemis series a few years back, but was
told there was one "already in the works".

Still waiting
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