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Joe Hollon
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I doubt even Wayne could afford that!!
******
Now that sounds like a challenge!
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Steve Lieber
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Re: The Simpsons- a friend who is an animator for the show informs me that selling sketches of Simpsons characters will get them fired.
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Andrew Hess
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Steve -
Thanks for the info. And that's appalling.
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Andrew Hess
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As to this "experiment" of JB's:
it's nice and fun to see the pen/brush of the artist hitting these characters
again, but it doesn't do anything for me as either a fan of the original
story/art, nor as someone who appreciates art.
If I had an option of requesting something like this, it would be to see a
recreation of a scene from the original: as if the present-day JB was given
the script and redid the scene for this particular page.
(When JB has done this with his reinterpretations of the covers, I think his
re-imaginings
are so much better than even the
recreations
of the originals, never mind how much I love the
originals.
But that leads to all sorts of questions: same panel layout? Marvel-
method script? or, given the way CC & JB were working at this point (IIRC
generally going from a conversation to JB drawing the book and not a
page by page breakdown), would it be a more total redesign of the whole
scene, never mind this particular page?
Who knows! That's, I think, up to JB and whomever pays for this kind of
re-interpretation.
My $0.02.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 14 May 2007 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | 5
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Recreations serve their purpose. Usually, they are of pieces that either no longer exist -- as with my Dick Sprang recreation of the first page of the first Batman story I read -- or the originals have passed beyond the reach of most people's bank accounts. The re-interpretation I did recently of the cover to UNCANNY 137, for instance, I expect to command a healthy price, well worth my time, but nothing like the price the original would command.Basically, recreations afford people the opportunity to own something that is connected with a piece of history -- the industry's or their own -- which would otherwise not be possible. (This is why I raise an eyebrow when I see recreations offered by people who had nothing to do with the original. Take this page, for instance. If Terry or Tom decided to do their own versions, they would be equally valid. If, say, Joe Rubinstein or Klaus Jansen did a copy of the page, that to me would not be at all the same thing.)
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Wayne Osborne
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| Posted: 14 May 2007 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | 6
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"I doubt even Wayne could afford that!!
******
Now that sounds like a challenge!"
Don't tempt me, Joe. I don't know if I'd go for an exact replication but I've
often wondered about a reimagination of a particular issue. Especially when
I look at the redo of the 115 cover. That's such a nice one. It really does
make me want to see what would be inside the rest of that book.
WO
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John Byrne
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Hey, only 17 pages in that one, Wayne. You'd only have to make your miners each work and extra three hour shift every day for a month, and you'd probably have it paid for!
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John Papandrea
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| Posted: 14 May 2007 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | 8
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"Wilson Mui: JB, if you started drawing interiors pages (re-imagined or original) as commissioned pieces, would you have a problem with the buyer hiring a letterer to add the balloons?
BTW - What does a letter usually charge per page, anyway?"
I would think that JB could create the fonts (like the great Tom Orzenchowski) on PC and paste them on the board like he did on Jack Morrelli's lettering.
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John Byrne
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On commission pieces, I would prefer to avoid paste-up lettering for the same reason I avoid white-out, razor scratching and zip-a-tone. Anything that's not a physical part of the board I consider a detriment to the piece. I am not, after all, selling these commissions as collages.
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James Hanson
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This is why I raise an eyebrow when I see recreations offered by people
who had nothing to do with the original. Take this page, for instance. If
Terry or Tom decided to do their own versions, they would be equally valid.
If, say, Joe Rubinstein or Klaus Jansen did a copy of the page, that to me
would not be at all the same thing
I suppose it has to do with novelty value. In the Modern Masters: Art Adams,
he did a couple recreations of old school Fantastic Four, Batman, Red Sonja,
etc. covers and they all looked great. Perhaps also a "What If...?" factor-- like
what if Byrne drew FF#5 or Mignola drew Detective #27. Interesting to see
the results.
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John Byrne
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Line for line recreations, or in his own style?
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Wayne Osborne
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In his own style. He did the FF cover that's in there for me. It's a redo of the
Kirby 160-something cover (I suck at the numbers) with all the FF fighting
the giant space gorilla Gorr. I also own the Kirby cover too. I sent him a
full-sized copy of it that he used to trace the logo and stuff.
WO
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