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Gene Best
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| Posted: 23 September 2007 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | 1
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That freakin' ROCKS.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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I'm so ashamed. My first reaction to the image was : "Gee. Cyclops looks awe-struck. What is he looking at?"
I am so ashamed.
Gorgeous piece. The crushing of the logo looks better, she looks like she's using more force, is more manic. The face looks more solid and fierce.
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Vinny Valenti
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This also helps to point out some things about your Old Stuff that used to bug me. There was often something odd about the way you handled women's lips back then - they looked too full and unnatural to me. Plus women's faces looked too perfectly round at most angles, as if they lacked cheek bones. Bear in mind that I first became exposed to your artwork in 1983, and by that point you had already
overcome this for the most part - that's why when I started backtracking and looked up your earlier 70's work, the mistakes just stood out to me.
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Brian Mayer
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| Posted: 24 September 2007 at 6:14am | IP Logged | 4
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Its OK. The original grabs me more for a few reasons.
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William Roberge
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The way Storm's cape in the updated one looks more like her ass just got kicked. The way it is draped is.....better IMO.
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Bruce Buchanan
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| Posted: 24 September 2007 at 7:30am | IP Logged | 6
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As much as I like the original (it's one of my favorite X-Men covers ever), the new version is even better!
Thanks for sharing, JB.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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Mikael Bergkvist (in part): "...a cool tribute to the Neal Adams cover, where a character interacted with the logo for the first time in comic book history. :-) " (emphasis mine).
You must be a M****l fan, Mikael; at DC, Carmine Infantino did several covers in the '60's where the characters interacted with the logos (my favorite - the Batman issue where the Caped Crusader leaped from a stone "Batman" logo as it was being pulverized by the Blockbuster), and Nick Cardy drew several Superman covers in the '70's which made creative use of the Man of Steel's logo.
Neal may have been the first at M****l, however.
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Aric Shapiro
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Interacting with logos? See Will Eisner's Spirit and Jack Cole's Plastic Man
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Bruce Buchanan
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Yeah, Eisner was doing that sort of thing back in the 1940s. His work was so far ahead of its time - and still holds up today.
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John Byrne
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Frank Miller tells the amusing tale of talking to Eisner in the 1980s, and gushing enthusiastically about this new thing called "color holds" that everybody at Marvel was suddenly enamored of. Eisner didn't know what he was talking about, so Frank described the process of doing some of the line work on overlay so that it would be incorporated into one of the color plates, rather than the black. "Oh," said Eisner, "you mean..." and gave the technical name for an identical process he'd been using since the 1940s.Eisner wasn't merely ahead of his time. He was the time the rest of us were trying to catch up to!
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Mikael Bergkvist
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I was referring to M****l and I'm sorry if I came across differently.
I have been an avid fan of Will Eisner my whole life, especially since The Spirit started in the swedish edition of "The Phantom" in glorious color.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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| Posted: 24 September 2007 at 9:33am | IP Logged | 12
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Very nice. I particulary like the work on Dark Phoenix's face in the new version.
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