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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132333
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 1
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I was talking with Terry Austin this morning, and as we rambled thru many topics, he told me a story I had not heard before.Seems Terry went into the Marvel offices one day, and Archie Goodwin (then EiC) emerged from his sanctum sanctorum and approached Terry with an idea. "They're going to cancel X-MEN," Archie said (as Terry paraphrased), "but if I can get them to make it monthly, we may be able to save it. If I can talk Byrne into penciling, would you be interested in inking?" Seems Arch had really liked the pairing of Terry and me on STARLORD, and thought it would work well for the merry mutants. "Sure!" said Terry. And, as you can well imagine, Archie didn't have to work very hard to get me to accept the assignment. (I had made it known that if Dave Cockrum ever left that book and it didn't come to me, the halls of Marvel would run red!) It was funny to hear this story from Terry. I had no idea my being invited onto the book was part of a "plan" Archie was putting together to save it from cancelation! But that sure does clarify why, when I suggested Sam Grainger continue on X-MEN (to make the transition from Dave to me easier on the loyal X-Fans) and Terry join me on MARVEL TEAM-UP, Archie was so adamant about the configuration he'd initially proposed! So there's an interesting but of Marvel history -- Terry Austin was actually assigned to UNCANNY before me! (Now -- imagine the alternate reality where I said "No"!)
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Greg Woronchak Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1631
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 2
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Hmm, I wonder who else (in this alternate reality) could have been plan B...
Maybe George Perez? That probably would've changed lots of things, maybe he wouldn't have eneded up at DC on the Titans.
Sorry, imagination running wild <g>...
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 3
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George was pretty well entrenched on THE AVENGERS, as I recall. I wondered, based on how Terry told the tale, if this was a make-or-break idea in Archie's mind. (No way to know, now!)
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Sam Karns Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7624
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:25am | IP Logged | 4
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Would you have continued working on Team Up? Were there alternative projects to work on? Did you get the itch to work on The World's Greatest Comic Magazine?
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8042
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 5
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So, it really can be said that you saved the X-Men!
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:32am | IP Logged | 6
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"George was pretty well entrenched on THE AVENGERS, as I recall."
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Just an interesting bit of trivia, since we;re on the subject - your first issue of X-Men came out the same month as the final issue of your first fill-in run for Perez on Avengers (the Count Nefaria storyline).
Do you happen to remember which was drawn first?
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Aric Shapiro Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 7
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John, you have so many of these insider-type stories from Marvel and DC about so many famous books. have you ever considered compiling them, or writing some kind of book?
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Charles Tyus Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 506
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 8
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Thanks for sharing.
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Don Zomberg Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 9
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Not to speak for John, but I recall him saying he pitched such an idea--it was rejected because it sounded too much like Kavalier & Clay.
Whatever.
I'd have bought a copy.
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 10
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It's great that history shows Archie Goodwin was a genius!
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Sam Karns Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | 11
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Indeed he was, they were a great pairing.
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Geoff Gibson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:47pm | IP Logged | 12
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Was Cockrum leaving anyway or did Archie choose to replace him for you JB (because if I read the story right because the book was going monthly)?
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