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John Byrne
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 4:45am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Now let us await the day that Christos decides to part with this piece, and within about five minutes we see it posted somewhere with the inks "finished".

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In all seriousness, I wonder if there is not a way, were you so moved, that you could attach some kind of 'encumbrance' to the ownership of these pieces forbidding such defacement? I mean, I'd hate to see something like that happen. I can't imagine what that does to you.    

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Sadly, once a piece of art leaves the original artists hands, there is little or nothing s/he can do to control its fate. I've seen pencil sketches I have done of female characters, for instance, turned into "nudes" by inkers. A while back someone proudly posted in this Forum a cover sketch by a well known artist that the owner had gotten a well known inker to "finish" -- thus destroying a unique piece of artwork.

Part of the problem lies in the fact that many collectors of comicbooks do not really comprehend "original art". Many are surprised to discover the originals are black and white, for instance, and there was even a vogue, for a while (and perhaps still) for getting originals colored. Again, unique pieces of artwork destroyed.

Too many collectors, it seems, want what they acquire to be as close to a finished page as possible. Fully inked. Colored. Whatever. More than once I have had bumps with people like this, and have told them they should start collecting prints and posters, and stop destroying unique works.

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David Henriot
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 5:02am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I already have four cover done on commission by JB, and a fifth on it's way, and i can understand what you mean, John.

I have a finished product, not pieces of paper fixed together. So, i understand it's less valuable than original art,less rare,  but i am a fan and not a collector (wich is different than a speculator to my mind, don't worry). I enjoy the full composition as a piece of art, event the logo or the corner box.

The fan in me -or is that the kid ? - is also sad that there will never be original art by JB in color. If i ever want some, i must get a poster, such as the She-Hulk jogging.

 

A few days, a friend of mine came to my place with his little daugther. She was drawing, and as a joke, he said to her : "if you'd like, David can unframedd one (JB's commission) and let you colorise it".
Even if i knew he was joking, my blood turned ice and cold.

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Trevor Giberson
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 8:32am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

OK, this commission is pretty damn fantastic.
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Jeremiah Avery
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I've had people e-mail me via my comicartfans gallery offering their services to ink and "finish" some of the artwork I have posted on there. To me, the sketch is complete and doesn't need any additional work on it.

Some have also offered to color the artwork I have commissioned from JB. Aside from the fact their coloring portfolios are rather ghastly, it'd be ruining the pieces. If I ever could afford a Kirby piece, I shudder to think of someone trying to "improve" upon it.

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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I would love to see an entire comic drawn in the way this commission was.
Seriously the thought of something like that, gives me goosebumps.  Has there ever been anything done like that?
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Paul Go
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Fantastic.  I love it!
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Jeff Bell
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

John, this is glorious!
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Sebastien Roy
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

This was a great idea for a commission.  It looks awesome.

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Paul Kimball
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Nice work.
I would love to see an accompanying piece with Crossbones battling Batman.
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Monte Gruhlke
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I really like the intensity of this fight. Great job, JB!

For some reason I was just thinking I'd like to see a similar piece between the Star-Spangled Avenger and Taskmaster... with Captain America shouting in mid-battle "Stop copying me!"
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Gary Olson
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Would anyone mind telling me when JB did OMAC? Is it available in TPB?

And though I like the Deathstroke character- or did in the early '80s- Cap would kick his ass! 

 

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 09 August 2010 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

OMAC came out in the early 90's. I want to say it came out right around when JBNM started. '91, maybe?

Unfortunately, it has yet to be collected in TPB.

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