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Antonio Rocha
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I loved everthing about MOS. One thing in particular, the big panels, was a joy to behold, specially for someone who had to read it in a A5 format. I remember not liking George Perez because of the small panels.
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Greg Woronchak
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One of the things I enjoyed about MOS (and most JB work) is the way cool new things were added to the mythos, while maintaining the essential qualities that make the character iconic.
JB's version of Krypton and the culture was radically different from the previous continuity, but was a springboard for interesting stories and character bits.
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John Byrne
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JB's version of Krypton and the culture was radically different from the previous continuity, but was a springboard for interesting stories and character bits.•• When Seigel and Shuster created Superman, their version of Krypton was the common shorthand for "futuristic". Unfortunately, it became carved in stone, so it didn't take long for Kal-El's birthplace to look anything BUT "futuristic". It looked more like it was stuck in a 1930s movie serial. My redesign of Krypton was intended to dodge that particular bullet. Rather than trying to design something that would still look "futuristic" a decade or three hence, I went for something "alien". If my version had also become carved in stone, we could still be visiting Krypton a hundred years from now without it looking antiquated.
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John Byrne
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He was a Kansas farmboy with alien DNA.•• And not necessarily even that! One of the deeper subtexts (unrevealed at the time) behind my "Host" story, was that those long-ago humans who left Earth hundreds of thousands of years before we came along might well have been the original settlers of the planet Krypton.
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John Byrne
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I remember not liking George Perez because of the small panels.•• I would never fault George on the art, of course, but I really didn't like how he turned Superman into a clone of Jor-El.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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MoS became the most accessible point to access Superman. That's the comic that got me into Superman in comics.
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Michael Hogan
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Juan: excellent point on the accessibility. MoS also got me into DC comics. I had loved Superman since watching George Reeves as a lad, but didn't care for the WGBS reporter in the comics with the super-ventriloquism, super-robots, near-omnipotence (tossing planets around), and all the baggage.
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Stephen Churay
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As I have mentioned before, Roger Stern used to say of one particular writer that he had trouble writing superheroes because he could not believe anybody could be more noble than he was -- which was not very!---- JB, would that writer be known for his extensive runs on the Batman titles would he? Otherwise, I can think of another writer who also has trouble writing superheroes, Superman specifically. But, he could relate to Batman because he was a regular person. Well, anytime I hear this it drives me up the wall. With Superman, if you don't concentrate on the powers, you look at his nobility. That's something to aspire towards, realizing it's an unobtainable goal, just like you would many mythological and biblical characters.
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John Byrne
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As I have mentioned before, Roger Stern used to say of one particular writer that he had trouble writing superheroes because he could not believe anybody could be more noble than he was -- which was not very!---- JB, would that writer be known for his extensive runs on the Batman titles would he? •• No -- and if I wanted to name names, I would name names.
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Daniel Gillotte
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I loved the way that Mr Byrne contrasted Kryptonians with Humans and specifically Americans, but also loved that Jor-el was shown having some of those dang emotions that humans had, too!
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Accessibility is the key word.
Superman is a mass comic book. It should be aimed at averyone.
Accessible stories, hooking artwork.
Today? Today we have a mess comic book.
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John Byrne
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Superman is a mass comic book. It should be aimed at averyone. •• One of the greatest problems besetting the comicbook industry today is the way in which the publishers, faced with shrinking audiences, have targeted the books at even SMALLER audiences. It's as if they're all saying "CAPTAIN FONEBONE is only selling 25,000 per month, so let's do stories that will appeal to 15,000 of those readers!"
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