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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Well, not so "new" any more. . .   sigh

approx 11x17 inches

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Michael Arndt
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Love it especially Kitty's hands throught Angel's wings (which you draw wonderfully).
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Neat! JB, was it your idea to have Kitty phasing through the floor and
Warren's wings?
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:34am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Oh yeah that is awesome!  I love that costume for Angel!  No one does Kitty as well as JB does.  Well done, sir!  Congratulations to the commissioner!
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:38am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Phasing through the wings kind of confused me for a moment, to be honest.  It made me think somehow Angel's wings were quite easy to push through... but I figured it out.

I do like how Kitty is simultaneously phasing through and stepping up onto the floor.  It's one of those things I never considered (since gravity doesn't really seem to impact Kitty when she phases), but something that makes perfect sense when you think about it.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:39am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

It΄s great to see Warren in his good old times. For me, he was the example of a free spirit.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Nicely done.

I like the way theres movement, without speed lines. Maybe it's the arc of Angels wings.

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:56am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Phasing through the wings kind of confused me for a moment, to be honest. It made me think somehow Angel's wings were quite easy to push through... but I figured it out.

I do like how Kitty is simultaneously phasing through and stepping up onto the floor. It's one of those things I never considered (since gravity doesn't really seem to impact Kitty when she phases), but something that makes perfect sense when you think about it.

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You recognize that this is Kitty, you know how her power works, you appreciate that she has not had her right foot amputated -- but her hands/fingers thru Warren's wings "confused" you?

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:05pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

My brain just didn't "see" it right at first.  Sorry.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Love it!  You are consistently good with both these characters.  I also like the "interaction" between the two.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

JB, was it your idea to have Kitty phasing through the floor and Warren's wings?

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Yup. In fact, that was the moment when the piece "clicked" in my head. As I have mentioned before, winged characters, like Angel or Hawkman, tend to present something of a problem when positioning them with other characters. Their wings take up so much space they mostly have to stand at the back.

When I was playing around in my head with ways to address this in this drawing, the idea of playing Warren's wings vertically instead of horizontally flickered by, and in that moment I saw Kitty within the "parentheses" of the wings, reaching out to "phase" thru them.

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Love it. You and Neal do the best Angel of anyone, and this is the perfect costume, IMO. 

At the risk of thread drift, this piece, with one of the original X-Men and what was once one of the newest, got me thinking about when mutants in the Marvel universe began taking on more extraordinary appearances. Was Nightcrawler the first who didn't look fully human? It seems that since then, it's become more of the rule than the exception, with many mutants featuring bizarre appearances, much like the Inhumans.

I'm curious whether I'm correct that mutants originally were basically humans with an "X-tra" ability but with mostly human appearances. Did that change over the years?
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Nice one!
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At the risk of thread drift, this piece, with one of the original X-Men and what was once one of the newest, got me thinking about when mutants in the Marvel universe began taking on more extraordinary appearances. Was Nightcrawler the first who didn't look fully human? It seems that since then, it's become more of the rule than the exception, with many mutants featuring bizarre appearances, much like the Inhumans.

I'm curious whether I'm correct that mutants originally were basically humans with an "X-tra" ability but with mostly human appearances. Did that change over the years?

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I've mentioned before that it took me a long time to "warm up" to Nightcrawler. He seemed from the start so very much at odds with Stan's original conception of mutants in the Marvel Universe being people with AN extra ability. Kurt was a virtual grab bag of such, with his bizarre looks, his super agility, his ability to "stick" to walls, his teleportation, his generating fire and brimstone when he did so, his prehensile tail, and, of course, his later revealed turning invisible in shadows. (When he got the "image inducer" it quickly became yet another power. Roger Stern grumbled at the time that Nightcrawler was rapidly taking on aspects of Green Lantern, with the "Oh, look! My ring can do something it couldn't do last issue!" approach.)

I was not at all surprised when Dave Cokrum told me the character had been originally conceived as a member of the Legion of Substitute Heroes. There Stan's restrictions on number and kinds of powers was not in place.

Very close to the end of my tenure, in the Wendigo story, I finally "found" Nightcrawler's place -- as the comedy counterpoint to Wolverine's grim-and-grittiness. I was soon gone, tho, so had no chance to really develop this.

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

It would've been fun to have read a Nightcrawler/Wolverine "buddy movie" mini-series from you, JB!
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

My "mystery" commission finally solved! Excellent job as always.

Some background for the board...when I requested this I gave JB  two lists of six characters each and let him pick one from each list. Any particular reason you chose these characters JB? 

FYI, this is the second in a series of old/new X-Men (Nightcrawler/Marvel Girl being the first).  I must admit that in my mind I had either Kitty paired with Angel or Iceman in this series of commissions, so it was a pleasant surprise. 




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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

Ben - Great commission concept!

JB - Great commission!


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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Nice commission!!
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Just had a small "Ouch" moment.

About fifteen years ago I started dating a young woman who one day informed me that she had been a huge fan of Kitty Pryde when the character was introduced, in large part because she and Kitty were the same age.

That former girlfriend turned 44 last month. See why "comicbook time" is such a good idea?

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It would've been fun to have read a Nightcrawler/Wolverine "buddy movie" mini-series from you, JB!

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We're off on the road to Magneto. . . .

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That former girlfriend turned 44 last month. See why "comicbook time" is such a good idea?
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One reason the character appealed to me at the time, I was also the same age.  She's aged far better than I.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Two of my favorite X-Men. Beautiful!

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Always enjoy seeing Angel show up in a commission!  Beautiful work with Kitty!  Thanks for sharing JB & congrats Ben.
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Lovely commission, I like the poses and the phasing effect, perfect!
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Beautiful work JB. I've always loved Kiity when you created here. Her beautiful big eyes always show a sense of wonder.
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