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Thomas McMillian
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I've done some searches in the forum regarding IDW's Artist Edition line and, while I found references to various releases, I didn't find any comments directly from John Byrne regarding if he'd be open to such a project.  Has this subject been addressed in the past by him?

Given John's existing relationship with IDW, it would seem like a natural possibility.  That said, I've noticed over the years that John appears to sell off a lot of his art from a given project right away... so I'd suspect that there might be some complications with piecing together certain 'classic' story arcs?

The format really is fantastic and, despite the premium price, it would be a great way for the many Bryne art fans to see the raw work.

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I would jump on a JB Artist Edition in a heartbeat!
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Never mind.

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One of these is unlikely, for my work, since the pages are long since scattered to the four corners of the Earth, and Terry Austin, who holds the largest single collection of such (from X-MEN) has no interest in releasing them for use by IDW.

And so it goes.

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If Terry was willing to let the pages for the Dark Phoenix story be used I am
pretty sure the remain pages could be tracked down for use. It is a pretty
tight knitted community of comic art collectors and while many of the pages
owners aren't known publicly, privately the pages could be found.

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Thanks for the quick answer!

One other option to consider:  For the upcoming "David Mazzucchelli's Daredevil Born Again: Artist's Edition," IDW is apparently using scans that Mr. Mazzucchelli had taken of the art prior to selling them (vs. IDW requesting to scan the art themselves).

Given that John's art appears to be scanned before sale (I make this assumption, based on the volumes of art posted on this site... not sure how far back scans go), perhaps giving the scanned files for a particular run to IDW would be an option?

From a business standpoint, I realize that there has been frequent self-deprecating remarks about John Byrne material not being as well-known in the current marketplace.  That said, I think that the case could be made that a "John Byrne Artist's Edition" book would sell as well, if not better, than Walter Simonson's recent "Thor" Artist's Edition (No disrespect to Mr. Simonson, of course... it's a great book).  The same could be said for "Born Again"'s popularity vs. particular John Byrne runs.

Of course, Marvel-related work might have a bigger audience than "Next Men" or other independent projects.  So far as I've heard, DC has refused to collaborate on any Artist's Editions.



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If Terry was willing…

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As I said. . . .

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Joe Hollon
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If they ever want to put together an Artist's Edition of, say, JACK KIRBY'S FOURTH WORLD #17 I'll provide scans of my pages!
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From a business standpoint, I realize that there has been frequent self-deprecating remarks about John Byrne material not being as well-known in the current marketplace. That said, I think that the case could be made that a "John Byrne Artist's Edition" book would sell as well, if not better, than Walter Simonson's recent "Thor" Artist's Edition (No disrespect to Mr. Simonson, of course... it's a great book). The same could be said for "Born Again"'s popularity vs. particular John Byrne runs.

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I think for the target market of these IDW Artist's Editions, all of these artists are well-known.
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Speaking of just this yesterday with a chum.

I would not need an all-inclusive, complete story to spend the $.

Just show me the stuff we can find!

Plus, there are bound to be many whom WOULD oblige to a scanning of their collections.
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Given the modern pages have no lettering (boo) I wonder how a newer series Artist's Edition would sell?  Or if that would impact sales at all? 

I've purchased all of them so far but one without lettering would really make me wonder about buying it.  

I'd love to see Namor by JB or any other number of series.  The Duo-Shade pages look amazing in black and white.
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I think it will be a while before any computer-lettered run of comics is deemed classic enough for inclusion in this line.  "Born Again" might be right around the cutoff point for what comic fans consider to be all-time classics.  
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I'd agree that no lettering would be a turn-off.  I like being able to actually read the story... the only edition of "The Rocketeer" that I have is the Artist's Edition and I don't plan on buying any color reprint collections.

Would it hurt the integrity of the product to digitally add the computer lettering over the scanned page?   I'd be okay with that compromise.

I'm not familiar with the computer lettering process, but I assume that artists still leave some room for word bubbles or actually still draw the bubbles into the panels in advance?

One similar question seems to involve artists like Dave Gibbons now only drawing in the computer, eliminating the idea of original art entirely.

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Not too long ago, the original art for Alpha Flight #1 was being sold complete... not sure who bought it.

That would make a sweet book.


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drool....
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Yeah -- I saw that AF#1 sale on CAF.

drool indeed.


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   As John has said, it's quite impossible to get all of the stuff needed for an Artist Edition now.  What I would like to see is a reissue of The Art of John Byrne by IDW, but we're getting the next best thing with this website and the commissions threads on the forum.  I think John's okay with things as they are now.
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If Terry was willing…

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As I said. . . .

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I'm puzzled by this. Why wouldn't a collector be willing? It's not like the original art would decrease in value. Does IDW have a track record of destroying art as they do the scans?


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I'm puzzled by this. Why wouldn't a collector be willing? It's not like the
original art would decrease in value. Does IDW have a track record of
destroying art as they do the scans?

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Does it matter the reason? He's not interested. Seems rude to
speculate why.
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Carmen: As John has said, it's quite impossible to get all of the stuff needed for an Artist Edition now.

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JB was talking about getting originals from his X-Men.

It's NOT impossible to get complete JB originals. For example... Jim Warden owns complete interiors to:

Alpha Flight #14

Incredible Hulk #319 (including the cover)

Doomsday +1 #4

Spider-Man: Chapter One #8 (including cover)

X-Men: Hidden Years #8 (including cover)

...and that's just Jim Warden. I know there are other collectors out there who own complete JB issues.


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I'd like to see black and white reproductions of my ANGEL stuff. Maybe shot from the pencils.

Oh, wait. We did that.

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I'm puzzled by this. Why wouldn't a collector be willing? It's not like the original art would decrease in value. Does IDW have a track record of destroying art as they do the scans?

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Does it matter the reason? He's not interested. Seems rude to speculate why.

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Thank you.

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Would it be more possible to do The Last Galactus Story in one of
these?
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Probably not. Those pages are also scattered.

This thread seems like it's going to turn in to one of those "Well, thanks for answering that but, what about this one?"

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Right as rain, Bill. Dead horse, me thinks.
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