Posted: 17 March 2012 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | 7
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The information about Luke's father comes from Ben in STAR WARS. Ben could be lying (or parsing facts). That's out of character. But is it a retcon?
++++++++ This is a tricky one, to be sure. Of course, it's clearly a retcon. And, in terms of the film's storytelling itself, in which Ben is established as a key narrative tool (we learn about the Force, the Jedi, and Vader from him, with no reason whatsoever to believe he's an unreliable narrator), it's clearly a retcon. In-universe, maybe it isn't so much of a retcon. Ben could have been lying (and was lying, as it turned out). But there are technically no established, objective facts that are contradicted by Father Vader's reveal. Just Ben's exposition. If we'd actually seen Vader and Father Skywalker existing as separate characters, it would be different. +++++++++++++ Same with Gwen Stacy's affair with Norman Osborn. As out of character as my Uncle Sasha picking up a check but it does not directly contradict objective facts +++++++++++ Yes, it does. There are timeline problems, at the very least. At no point could Gwen have run off for nine months (or less) and given birth in secret, based on everything we saw in the classic Spider-Man series. Each storyline flowed into the next, and Gwen had only gone to England to stay with relatives after her father's death for a short time. And she never showed signs of being pregnant (with TWINS) before, during, or after that trip. And JMS' idea that the trip to France and the birth of the twins took place during the three-month gap supposedly caused by the reprint story in ASM # 116-118 doesn't fly, either. Every Spider-Man story during those years flowed directly or near-directly into the next, and the reprint story was modified to fit into then-current continuity, placing it squarely in-between ASM # 115 and # 119. Uggghhh....I don't want to talk about it anymore! Hate...that...story.
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