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Neil Brauer
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I think time should be completely ignored. The "6 year rule" or whatever it is, doesn't work for me either. You end up with origin story after origin story continually trying to update the character. As JB said, Bond is a good example; put the character in current time and quit trying to explain character history that doesn't jibe with a timeline. It's a never ending battle that is unwinnable.
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Paulo Pereira
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I think "many" or "several" years ago works better than any fixed amount of time ago.
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Andy Mokler
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The Simpsons will always be the example that I think works best to illustrate what comic books should be doing. Those characters haven't aged and they somehow acknowledge happenings from previous episodes while not becoming constricted by or tied to continuity.
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Wallace Sellars
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If you are the creator and owner of the character(s), go for it. If not, you should leave characters at the same age you found them.
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Robbie Parry
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Outside comics, fans of other types of fiction tend not to worry about ageing, at least the people I've spoken to. I know someone who is passionate about the James Bond novels, but he once told me no-one appears to be concerned about the passage of time.
One of the Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes movies is set in 1897, but a later film has Holmes and Watson active during World War II. I communicate regularly with someone about theatrical Holmes films and we've never heard anyone asking why Holmes and Watson were still active during World War II. We simply accept each adventure as happening NOW!
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Brian Miller
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It depends on how the characters are created. If they are created with aging in mind, sure. If the aging is just an add-on years after the creation, no.
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Adam Hutchinson
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If the creators and owners of the characters want them to, sure why not? Now should Spider-Man, Superman, and the rest in their shared universes age? No.
The problem, I think, is the fits and starts of aging characters. To me Spider-Man/Peter Parker works best as struggling young adult/grad student (single or married), cause that's what he was when I met him. Clark and Lois were married, Aquaman had a dead son and estranged wife, and Batman was on his third Robin. Due to aging, de-aging, reboots, and retcons any of those status quos can be very different depending on when you started reading.
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Kip Lewis
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I think this falls into the catagory of what you are first exposed to, is
what you think works best. I was introduced to an aging Peter
Parker. He didn't age in real time, but he aged. So, that works for
me. (After all, aging heroes were part of the package that made me
like comics.)
And there are pros and cons to both paths. Not aging means every
generation gets Dick Grayson as Robin. But Not aging means you
deny the next generation their Robin like Tim Drake. (And no, Tim
Drake couldn't have been another character for the next generation.
He only works if he is/was Robin.)
Nowadays, I might say; pick a path and stick to it. No aging; fine.
Aging, fine. Slow aging, also fine.
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Aaron Smith
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In a shared universe like Marvel or DC...NO!
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Andy Mokler
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And there are pros and cons to both paths. Not aging means every
generation gets Dick Grayson as Robin. But Not aging means you
deny the next generation their Robin like Tim Drake. (And no, Tim
Drake couldn't have been another character for the next generation.
He only works if he is/was Robin.)
I don't see the benefit of aging Robin. He could have still become a part of the Teen Titans and even changed to Nightwing and wanted to be more on his own while Batman could have still taken on a new Robin. Not sure I even see the need for each generation to have their own Robin.
It seems the main reason any of these characters ever age is to get them more age appropriate for sexual situations. Which isn't a good reason IMO.
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Aaron Smith
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I don't see a reason at all why a new generation needs a new Robin. Maybe the Nightwing thing should never have been done (especially since it leads to fans playing the silly game of trying to estimate how much Batman has aged). A new generation doesn't need a new Spider-Man or a new Human Torch or a new Superman, so why Robin? Every generation since the 40s has had the same Archie, just the clothes and other surface details change. When I started reading Batman (right around the time of the first Tim Burton movie) I was glad to see Tim Drake come along, but only because there was no Robin (Dick had long since become Nightwing and Jason had died). Had that not been the case, I would have been perfectly happy to have been reading about the same Robin that had been used since 1940.
Edited by Aaron Smith on 21 March 2012 at 3:40pm
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Paul Reis
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NO
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