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Stephen Churay
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | 1  

JB, do you knowingly shorten Galactus' proportions when you draw
him? Or, is there a trick to drawing him? I've tried drawing him twice
today. Most of the time I can eyeball it but doing so the fist time was a
disaster. The second time, I made sure I first created a blank figure
under drawing that I double checked to be a correct 8 heads tall and
he still looks too long in the torso.
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Kirby's Galactus had a mass to him that I have found difficult to fully capture. Part of it lies, I think, in the size Kirby drew the helmet. I -- and other artists I have seen -- tend to draw it much "tighter" than Kirby intended, so that side to side (excluding the antennae) it is not very much wider than a human head. But it needs to be much bigger than that.

Galactus is also "stocky", with big arms and legs.

I go back time and again to the very first time we saw him. I have formalized the details of his armor to something I can repeat without constant reference, but this basic BULK continues to elude me.

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Thanks JB. Looking at the drawing, I can see that making him wider is
going to help. Again, thank you.
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Take a look at this thread Stephen. Very informative.
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Following John's observations I took the liberty of manipulating his Galactus image from the other thread to reflect the wider helmet (and, forgive the indulgence) adding the Kirby element above of losing the 'belt' and moving it up to sit on/under the ribs to reduce the elongating effect of the vertical purple armour lines.

For me, JB's Galactus is the definitive one. A key reason for this is the thought that has gone into producing something that can be drawn and redrawn consistantly.

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Heavy lines should do the trick to add bulk to Galactus.

 

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Thick lines help but a thicker body and a bit shorter trunk and legs are
the key for my problem. Looking at the Kirby drawing, he's really thick.
I don't know if I'll make him THAT thick but more so than what I have
now. Sadly, I don't seem to notice the problem as much at the pencil
stage. It's after the inks are done it really becomes noticeable.
Although now I know what to look for.
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Darren, you mostly nailed it.
I would probably add in, Kirby's signature with shorter thigh than shin and you got it all… except for what will always elude all of us.

Jack Kirby's magic!


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JB, is that Galactus panel above showing the original colouring?  

I'm colour blind (one of the rarer varieties) but that panel looks amazingly hideous.  I'm beginning to suspect that old Jack had a hue-impairment as well!
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It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way. The actual head is very small for that stocky body. It allowed for a massive helmet (minus the wings) that is only a bit larger than the appropriate head.
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By the way, I am glad the "G" faded away.

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 Jeffery Rice wrote:
...It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way....


He didn't need to take a page from that book, he created the "language" that book teaches.


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 Jeffery Rice wrote:
...It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way....

Gross comment or inappropriate, at best.
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...It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel
Way....

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He didn't need to take a page from that book, he created the
"language" that book teaches.

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Yeah, he figuratively wrote the book used by the people who literally
wrote the book.
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Galactus looks fine here and his face in his helmet looks about the right size.

[reformatted - JB]

Edited by JohnByrne2 on 06 February 2013 at 6:14am

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Over time, Kirby's characters tended to become more "human", no matter how they looked in their first appearance. Remember how the Watcher changed?

And, of course, the most dramatic example is Kurgo, Master of Planet X, who went from this…

…to this…

…over the span of a single issue!

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JB, is that Galactus panel above showing the original colouring?

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Yes indeed! I call it his "Christmas Colors". They were gone with the next issue, no explanation offered (or asked for!).

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I love the original Watcher! The latter version kind of turned into a giant chubby baby in swaddling robes.
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Galactus' 'eyes' are a tricky bit too.
Purple and part of the helmet is my bet.
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I think you all got a little too defensive of Kirby instead of reading what i was trying to explain. I assume most of you have the book, and the page that explains that the Marvel way is to cheat on the head size to body proportion. 
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I think you all got a little too defensive of Kirby instead of reading what i was trying to explain.

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Unfortunately, the clumsy way in which you chose to phrase you comment was akin to the old joke about Shakespeare being a good writer, except he used too many quotes.

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There will never be another like Jack Kirby the true king of American comics. Just look at the Power in this Fantastic Four cover.

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Is that art from an actual cover?
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Sue Ward
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No Jeffrey i don't think this one was used. And if it had it would have been for issue 64 of the Fantastic Four ( THE SENTRY SINISTER )

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wow
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