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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 February 2013 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | 1
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JB, do you knowingly shorten Galactus' proportions when you draw him? Or, is there a trick to drawing him? I've tried drawing him twice today. Most of the time I can eyeball it but doing so the fist time was a disaster. The second time, I made sure I first created a blank figure under drawing that I double checked to be a correct 8 heads tall and he still looks too long in the torso.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 5:52am | IP Logged | 2
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Kirby's Galactus had a mass to him that I have found difficult to fully capture. Part of it lies, I think, in the size Kirby drew the helmet. I -- and other artists I have seen -- tend to draw it much "tighter" than Kirby intended, so that side to side (excluding the antennae) it is not very much wider than a human head. But it needs to be much bigger than that.Galactus is also "stocky", with big arms and legs. I go back time and again to the very first time we saw him. I have formalized the details of his armor to something I can repeat without constant reference, but this basic BULK continues to elude me.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 3
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Thanks JB. Looking at the drawing, I can see that making him wider is going to help. Again, thank you.
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William Roberge Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 8:22am | IP Logged | 4
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Take a look at this thread Stephen. Very informative.
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 9:19am | IP Logged | 5
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Following John's observations I took the liberty of manipulating his Galactus image from the other thread to reflect the wider helmet (and, forgive the indulgence) adding the Kirby element above of losing the 'belt' and moving it up to sit on/under the ribs to reduce the elongating effect of the vertical purple armour lines.
For me, JB's Galactus is the definitive one. A key reason for this is the thought that has gone into producing something that can be drawn and redrawn consistantly.
-D
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Sue Ward Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 6
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Heavy lines should do the trick to add bulk to Galactus.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 1:29pm | IP Logged | 7
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Thick lines help but a thicker body and a bit shorter trunk and legs are the key for my problem. Looking at the Kirby drawing, he's really thick. I don't know if I'll make him THAT thick but more so than what I have now. Sadly, I don't seem to notice the problem as much at the pencil stage. It's after the inks are done it really becomes noticeable. Although now I know what to look for.
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Pascal LISE Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 8
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Darren, you mostly nailed it.I would probably add in, Kirby's signature with shorter thigh than shin and you got it all… except for what will always elude all of us.
Jack Kirby's magic!
Edited by Pascal LISE on 04 February 2013 at 4:03pm
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Rob Ocelot Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | 9
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JB, is that Galactus panel above showing the original colouring?
I'm colour blind (one of the rarer varieties) but that panel looks amazingly hideous. I'm beginning to suspect that old Jack had a hue-impairment as well!
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Jeffrey Rice Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | 10
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It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way. The actual head is very small for that stocky body. It allowed for a massive helmet (minus the wings) that is only a bit larger than the appropriate head.
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Jeffrey Rice Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | 11
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By the way, I am glad the "G" faded away.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 10:01pm | IP Logged | 12
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Jeffery Rice wrote:
...It appears Kirby took a page from How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way.... |
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He didn't need to take a page from that book, he created the "language" that book teaches.
Edited by Matt Hawes on 04 February 2013 at 10:01pm
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