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Nathan Greno
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I agree, Vinny. I always think of it as blue/dark blue.
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Nathan Greno
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Hard to see this as black...
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Jason Czeskleba
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I've never been able to get my eyes to see a costume that's black with blue highlights as "black." No matter how much black shading is used, I see it as blue. Black Bolt, Black Widow... their costumes look blue to me as drawn/colored in the comics.
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Doug Centers
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Ditto Jason.. Black Panther's costume used to confuse me it would switch back and forth between gray and blue highlights.Havoc is the one character though that seems to stay black.
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Chris Basken
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A lot of people had this problem, and it eventually Flanderized into the comics themselves. Spider-Man's costume was originally red & black. The Beast was originally a kind of gray-black, but the blue highlights overpowered him so much they had to come up with a convoluted explanation for it in the movies involving Mystique.
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Stephen Robinson
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The worst thing for me about the "Flanderization", as Chris
calls it, is that the costumes don't just go from black to blue
but often from black to *light* blue (Angel's outfit above and
often Spider-Man's costume).
Useless trivia: Even if I've been exposed to the "Flanderized"
costume first, I still prefer the original, black version when
I see it. JB's FF uniforms are a great example.
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Bob Simko
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Where's that Magneto panel from?
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Jason Czeskleba
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Avengers #110.
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Vinny Valenti
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You know, with that OHOTMU image (which if I remember correctly was
drawn by Kerry Gammill), I could see it as black.....IF the entire costume was
that color (i.e. no white in the center). The Black Panther was often colored
the same way, but obviously his name hard-wires your decision to consider it
black, plus his costume is that color all over. But Angel's white stripe is
throwing me off. A stark contrast such as black/white should really have
been rendered as fully inked, ala Havok - nobody ever confused his
costume's color, I'm sure! And it's stranger when you consider that both
costumes came from the same artist, just issues apart.
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Leigh DJ Hunt
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I'm another whose brain is just indoctrinated to see those costumes as blue not black. Even when I've been told otherwise on here and even when it's in the name (Black Bolt for example) I still see only blue!
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Michael Penn
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As a kid, I never gave much thought, if any, to the coloring conventions. They just made inexplicit sense to me.
I knew Bruce's hair wasn't blue. I knew that the night sky wasn't blue (or olive in the next panel). Did I know that his robe was blue (or was it?) and his costume black (or at least parts of it were), or... ? I don't recall ever really wondering.
I'm sure had I seen in a real-life interpretation just black instead of black-blue, it wouldn't have looked right to me either, though. That's probably why I thought Adam West's costume was correct.
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Robert LaGuardia
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I also find it hard to think of Angel's costume as black.
When Wolverine is in his brown costume colorists use brown to
highlight his black mask. I like the way it looks whether it makes sense
or not. Blue highlights would clash with the brown and orange.
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