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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8053
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 1
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I could be misremembering, but I thought the legend was that the Magneto reveal was something that Neal slipped in, and that Roy Thomas was surprised when he received the artwork and just ran with it.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 30917
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 2
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Thanks, Ronald. I totally forgot that line.
Wow. How so much has changed...
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4726
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 2:53pm | IP Logged | 3
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How about the whole Nightcrawler/Mystique relationship? Wasn't she supposed to be his mom??
-C!
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4077
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 4
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Mystique was supposed to be Nightcrawler's father, with Destiny as his mother. Guess Marvel wouldn't let Claremont go there.
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Steven Legge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 866
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | 5
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Mystique, just get to the point. Stop being so... mystiquerious.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 16440
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | 6
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Steven Legge wrote:
...Mystique, just get to the point. Stop being so... mystiquerious... |
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LOL!
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Mike Murray Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 530
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | 7
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What's going on with Robert Frank, the guy who was almost Pietro and Wanda's adopted father? In that last panel, is he running away from Wundagore at super-speed like Quicksilver runs? Was that ever explained?
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Dave Phelps Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4180
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | 8
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Mike, Robert Frank was a Golden Age Marvel hero named the Whizzer. Basically a Flash-type character.
In Giant-Size Avengers #1 (circa Avengers #125), Roy Thomas established that Wanda and Pietro were the children of Bob Frank and another Golden Age character named Miss America (Madeline Frank). In that story, Madeline died in childbirth and Bova presented the twins to Bob, who ran away in grief.
When the decision was made to swap out Wanda and Pietro's parents (one of the things mentioned in the letters pages by "the editor" was how odd it was that "Maddie and Bob" named their children "Wanda and Pietro"), they built their version of the story around what had been told before rather than just ignoring it.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | 9
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How about the whole Nightcrawler/Mystique relationship? Wasn't she supposed to be his mom??••• Or his father.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 30917
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Posted: 06 November 2014 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 10
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Now he's just a demon-spawn. Ain't that great?
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Jeffrey Rice Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 September 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1161
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Posted: 06 November 2014 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | 11
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How about the whole Nightcrawler/Mystique relationship? Wasn't she supposed to be his mom??••• Or his father. ++++++++ My head exploded. That would have been a great reveal! Not often I can be surprised by a great idea that was never explored after almost 40 years of reading. ah, if only...
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 November 2014 at 6:04am | IP Logged | 12
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How about the whole Nightcrawler/Mystique relationship? Wasn't she supposed to be his mom??••• Or his father. ++++++++ My head exploded. That would have been a great reveal! Not often I can be surprised by a great idea that was never explored after almost 40 years of reading. ah, if only... •• See, I WAS holding Chris back! After I left, he got it into his head that Mystique was Nightcrawler's father, and Destiny his mother. That slipped by the wayside, but it's something I would not have let him do under any circumstance. Yet, "a great idea," apparently!
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