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Bob Harvey
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I quit shortly after the new, adjectiveless X-Men series launched. All of the characters I enjoyed were either gone or transformed into extra-cool parodies of themselves.
From looking at the issue synopses, it appears that I left right before JB came back on for a while.
Edited by Bob Harvey on 23 June 2015 at 8:55am
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John Byrne
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The less said about my "return" to the X-Men, the better! What a nightmare!
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Tim O Neill
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I read several of the Cockrum issues after JB left, but it didn't last long and I never made it past Cockrum's second run. I quit after I realized I was buying issues but not reading them. And I was a kid! I left and never went back on a regular basis, except for an issue here and there. JB's contribution became starkly clear after he left - and it made me follow him to other titles. Following JB introduced me to characters and titles I would not otherwise have tried.
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Trevor Smith
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"The less said about my "return" to the X-Men, the better!
What a nightmare!"
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I know it's a tale that's probably been told here before,
but was this another case of promises made, then broken JB?
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John Byrne
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Pretty much. Plus rampant unprofessionalism.
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Armindo Macieira
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It took a big hit after Claremont left and Jim Lee took over the writing chores but I kept buying some books but not consistently.
The final blow was when Madureira left. At the time I was just buying X-books for the art.
The great Alan Davis almost revived my interest but not enough for me to stick around for long.
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Mark Haslett
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I was somehow cursed to find a couple of John Byrne's X-Men through a friend just as John left. So my first issues off the stand were the Murderworld/Doom ones and I LIKED the way they echoed the John Byrne issues I now wanted, but couldn't afford.
If you look at it, the writing of the series after JB's departure is so thoroughly riddled with references to what happened while JB was there that it's like a remake or a re-do of that period, but this time with Chris Claremont in charge. It seemed to me like the series itself was just as obsessed with JB's issues as I was.
At the time, this was an attraction. I was more and more convinced with every back-issue I bought that those Byrne/Claremont/Austin issues were as good as it gets. It was only proper to my mind, at the time, that the ongoing X-Men should constantly honor its recent golden period.
But when Scott Summers was supposedly in love with Maddy Pryor for legitimate reasons OTHER than her resemblance to Jean, I had to admit I just didn't get it anymore. The whole thing kind of crumbled in my mind.
It is startling to me, looking at those issues now, how the quality of the X-Men stories takes a steep dive immediately following the last Byrne/Claremont issue. I mean, there are really just a handful of issues that follow which I still remember fondly. And that's WITH the power of nostalgia on their side!
Edited by Mark Haslett on 23 June 2015 at 10:10am
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Chuck Wells
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Alan Davis brief run on the title was more a pleasant aberration than anything else. Marvel fragmented the primary team members across so many different monthlies that only a masochist would be willing to even try to make sense out of the ongoing mess that the X-Men have become.
The X-Men series pretty much ended for me around the early 1990s.
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Michael Penn
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Just as a matter of my own taste, I found that Chris Claremont had certain tics in his writing that JB's participation more or less kept under control. I never realized how much until JB had gone.
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Brad Teschner
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I didn't actually start collecting the X-Mn until the mid 180's...I'd been
"introduced" to the team through the Dark Phoenix Saga trade (though I
think I'd met them previously either through Contest of Champions or X-
Men/Teen Titans). Jumping onto the X-Book seemed like a daunting task
at the time...every installment around that era seemed crammed with
references to so many events from the past 40 issues that seemed really
really relevant to understating exactly what was going on with the team.
I guess the term seemingly impenetrable would apply!
By the time I got up to speed things just starting getting more and more
convoluted...I left town shortly after the mutant massacre. I checked in
from time to time but man things were such a hot mess I never really had
a clue as to what was going on!
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Mike Norris
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I got back into comics a few years back. But X-Men was one title that I couldn't get back into. It was just too far removed from the title I Ioved years ago and the characters unrecognizable.
Edited by Mike Norris on 23 June 2015 at 12:58pm
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Charles Valderrama
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I tried to keep up after JB left, but honestly I was driven to collect X-MEN for a particular artist (like Paul Smith. Romita Jr, Alan Davis) rather than for the story. Claremont had some good ideas - but sometimes the execution wasn't good for my tastes. Plus, the introduction of so many mutants and constant team changes turned me off.
-C!
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