Posted: 31 August 2015 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 10
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Remember, Timely was going out of business and Stan was selling the furniture when Jack saw Stan on the sidewalk crying and told him to get up, he'll turn Timely around. The folks that are against Stan take every tale that was ever told like that very literally and will not believe any word to the contrary. ***** The source of that was Jack Kirby's words (The Comics Journal #134 (1990) interview): http://www.tcj.com/jack-kirby-interview/6/
ROZ KIRBY: Gary wants to know how you created The Fantastic Four. GROTH: Did you approach Marvel or — KIRBY: It came about very simply. I came in [to the Marvel offices] and they were moving out the furniture, they were taking desks out — and I needed the work! I had a family and a house and all of a sudden Marvel is coming apart. Stan Lee is sitting on a chair crying. He didn’t know what to do, he’s sitting in a chair crying —he was just still out of his adolescence. I told him to stop crying. I says. “Go in to Martin and tell him to stop moving the furniture out, and I’ll see that the books make money.” And I came up with a raft of new books and all these books began to make money. Somehow they had faith in me. I knew I could do it, but I had to come up with fresh characters that nobody had seen before. I came up with The Fantastic Four. I came up with Thor. Whatever it took to sell a book I came up with. Stan Lee has never been editorial minded. It wasn’t possible for a man like Stan Lee to come up with new things — or old things for that matter. Stan Lee wasn’t a guy that read or that told stories. Stan Lee was a guy that knew where the papers were or who was coming to visit that day. Stan Lee is essentially an office worker, OK? I’m essentially something else: I’m a storyteller. My job is to sell my stories. When I saw this happening at Marvel I stopped the whole damned bunch. I stopped them from moving the furniture! Stan Lee was sitting on some kind of a stool, and he was crying. GROTH: Stan says he conceptualized virtually everything in The Fantastic Four — that he came up with all the characters. And then he said that he wrote a detailed synopsis for Jack to follow. ROZ KIRBY: I’ve never seen anything. KIRBY: I’ve never seen it, and of course I would say that’s an outright lie. GROTH: Looking back on it, do you see the Challengers of the Unknown as a precursor to the Fantastic Four? KIRBY: Yes, there were always precursors to the Fantastic Four — except the Fantastic Four were mutations. When people began talking about the bomb and its possible effect on human beings, they began talking about mutations because that’s a distinct possibility. And I said, “That’s a great idea.”
Edited by Steven Ely on 31 August 2015 at 1:15pm
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