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Francesco Vanagolli Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 June 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 3130
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Posted: 30 August 2015 at 12:19pm | IP Logged | 1
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Would I like to read NEW FF material by John Byrne? Sure. Would I like to read new FF material by John Byrne for THIS Marvel? No, thanks.
John Byrne is a creative. He's one of those lucky guys who managed to pay bills using their imagination. In this Marvel, he couldn't use his imagination.
Just imagine the scene:
JB: "Hello, I have this new, great idea and--" Editor: "We can't. there's a crossover on the way." JB: "Why, let me explain what I want to--" Editor: "And we want to kill Sue because she's the one member of the group we didn't kill yet." JB: "But my story--" Editor: "WE decide the stories."
Next day, JB is replaced and Internet fanboys complain because "He cannot do teamwork".
And this can be applied to every comic book creator we love. So, again... no, thanks.
I'm glad I can reread the over sixty issues JB did over 30 years ago. They're still there, inside their long box.They're still beautiful.
Edited by Francesco Vanagolli on 30 August 2015 at 12:20pm
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 30 August 2015 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | 2
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While I'd looooove to read new FF adventures written and drawn by JB, I can't imagine, nor would I want to, him trying to work within the muck, that makes up the current Marvel U.
IMO, Marvel ceased to be Marvel after 9-11. Suddenly, stories had to quit being fun. They had to "matter".
So, the terrorists won.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6602
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Posted: 30 August 2015 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 3
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The monster hardcover FF collection of JB's run from a few years back is all we'll ever need, and all I ever wanted! Thanks again JB!
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Francesco Vanagolli Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 June 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 3130
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Posted: 30 August 2015 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 4
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Stephen Churay:
I don't know if terrorists won, but I'm sure superheroes LOST. Looking back at the history of American comics, I always noticed how superheroes always had an active role against what "evil" was in a particular moment. And even in the 1970s, when the United States seemed to lose part of their self confidence after Watergate and Vietnam, and superheroes lost some of ther battles, they always tried to do something. Do you remember when Steve Rogers renounced to his Captain America identity? He reinvented himself (something I consider tipically American) and became Nomad. He didn't give up. After 9-11, Marvel heroes simply did this... they gave up. They weren't super anymore.
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John Cole Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 March 2008 Location: United States Posts: 504
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Posted: 30 August 2015 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | 5
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Marvel lost the plot when they sold their soul to the stockholders.
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