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Paul Gibney
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Makes as much sense as calling Superman "Action".
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John Byrne
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Paul Gibney: Makes as much sense as calling Superman "Action".++++ I've told the story of meeting a young artist in the halls of DC, back during the five and a half minutes I was assigned to Captain Marvel. I mentioned this to the guy, and hearing me use that name he chuckled. "I'm a traditionalist," he said. "I call him Shazam!" sigh (Looking at that SHAZAM cover, I wonder where all the howls of outrage have been over that clearly not being a C.C.Beck Superman. Or is it only an offense to correct Jack Kirby's art?)
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Shaun Barry
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These pages could make a grown man weep, for a variety of reasons.
One, the art is just so perfectly GORGEOUS.
Two... where did these characters GO?
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Ed Love
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The Captain Marvel name change really didn't make much sense. Anyone that actually got past the title (or watched the opening minutes of the television show) would realize that Shazam was not the character's name. Only people not reading the comic would think his name was Shazam....
Which means the people that already thought his name was Shazam were not being moved to pick up the book or the least bit interested in the character to begin with. Changing his name to match their preconceived opinion does not actually address any reasons as to why they aren't interested in the character. Heck, it may be because they think Shazam is a stupid name for a superhero.
It strikes me as this management's version of "readers find multiple earth's concept too confusing". Who are these readers that cannot comprehend something frequently explained in one page or less in every comic it was an issue and why are we making drastic changes to cater to them?
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Robert LaGuardia
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Did Gomer Pyle get "Shazam" from the comic?
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John Byrne
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Did Gomer Pyle get "Shazam" from the comic?•• Checking online dictionaries, I find only one that credits Captain Marvel comics with the invention of the word. Others say it was used by magicians since the 1930s. Now, since Gomer was supposed to be a dimwit, and having an adult read comics has long been TV and movie shorthand for "not smart," we would probably not be far off the mark to assume the creators of Gomer had this in mind when they had him say "Shazam."
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Wallace Sellars
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I seem to recall an episode of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW that showed
Gomer reading a comic book.
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Wallace Sellars
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Who was the first to draw Wonder Woman with flat boots instead of
heels? (Kudos to him!)
JB, why did you choose to draw Captain Marvel with "cape ties" instead
of the flat design down the left side? It's a tweak that I immediately liked
when I first saw it.
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Eric Smearman
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Wallace, I think George Perez was the first to draw WW in flat boots
when he worked on her Post-Crisis reboot.
Edited by Eric Smearman on 30 August 2015 at 5:27pm
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Robert LaGuardia
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Thanks for the info, JB.
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Brian Hague
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The Ross Andru 1950's-era Wonder Woman frequently wore flat-soled sandals. Looking through some cover galleries, the heels apparently returned with issue 110 in late 1959.
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