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Eric Ladd
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The NRA works so hard and unfortunately effectively at defining the argument and with guns it is always your freedom that is at stake. My hope is the people using the app will status shame each other and the app will cause fighting within the constituency.
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Andrew Bitner
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Samuel Johnson was a very wise man.
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Michael Roberts
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-dallas-chief-20160711-
snap-story.html
David Brown, Dallas police chief:
“It’s increasingly challenging when people have AR-15s slung over their
shoulder and they’re in a crowd,” he said. “We don’t know who the good
guy is versus the bad guy when everyone starts shooting.”
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Shaun Barry
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I'm gonna keep saying it:
The NRA: Scientology for Gun Nuts.
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Eric Ladd
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Today I learned that the phrase, "Beam me up, Scotty" was never uttered on the original Star Trek TV show. It is just a phrase that the public at large began saying and it was associated with the show. A rather interesting way something presumed to be fact easily slides into the book of common knowledge. I mention it because I wonder how much of the intent or meaning surrounding gun ownership has been bastardized into our own common knowledge.
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Eric Ladd
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And the other side of the coin
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John Byrne
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Today I learned that the phrase, "Beam me up, Scotty" was never uttered on the original Star Trek TV show. It is just a phrase that the public at large began saying and it was associated with the show. A rather interesting way something presumed to be fact easily slides into the book of common knowledge.•• Pretty much the reason I use it as my tag line!
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John Byrne
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"The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says “State” instead of “Country” (the Framers knew the difference – see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too."Yeah, those pesky British soldiers we'd been fighting, and those annoying Indians who kept complaining about their land being taken -- not to mention outlaws, privateers, pirates and wild animals.... They had NOTHING to do with the framing of the Second Amendment! Virginia's vote was "gotten" by not abolishing slavery, as Jefferson wished to. It was a whole separate issue from the Second Amendment. (The writer of this article seems on some level to be confusing the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution.)
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Eric Ladd
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A very narrow view and interpretation of the Second for sure. Lately I am struck by how much people argue all around an issue without tackling the meat of the problem. Interpreting the 2nd amendment, what to call a civil rights movement and what is wrong with the police force are all being discussed with equal amounts of interpretation on both sides. Is this the new status quo? Discuss the cause(s) of problems, but never solve anything? I sure hope not.
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John Byrne
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Discussion has largely supplanted action. "Hey, at least we're talking about it" has become an excuse for getting nothing done!
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Andrew Bitner
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Talking about a problem is a win/win for politicians. They don't have to take risky votes that will be used against them (from the right or the left), they don't have to craft an actual policy that might address the problem and they don't have to do anything besides appear thoughtful and statesmanlike (neither of which really applies).
It's ideal for politicians.
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Robbie Parry
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More false equivalency and nonsense:
EDIT: Even if the comparison was valid - and it isn't - you have to be tested before driving. I had 35-40 hours of driving tuition. I passed a theory test, a hazard perception test and the actual driving test. And I've done an advanced driving course with the AA.
But, again, it's not a valid comparison: cars are not designed to take lives.
Edited by Robbie Parry on 15 July 2016 at 2:36pm
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