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Doug Centers
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Well I thought I was going to be able to predict the next president but I just learned neither candidate is left handed;
Useless trivia- 5 of the last 7 presidents were (are) left handed.* An astonishing percentage since only 10% of Americans are lefties. Being a fellow portsider I'm curious to know if this means anything.
*Reagan was a natural lefty but was forced at a young age to use his other hand, making him ambidextrous.
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Brian Miller
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One thing that has surprised me reading TEAM OF RIVALS is just how much the ideals of democrats and republicans have reversed since the inception of the Republican Party. At the time, the democrats were the conservatives and Lincoln's republicans were the liberals.
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Peter Martin
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Trump is only 50% right handed, owing to his small hands.
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John M. Jackson
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Hitler was a socialist. A national socialist but still a socialist.
Socialists want a big federal government. I'm pretty sure there has never been a dictator that believed in small government.
Socialists believe in blasphemy laws. They disguise it as political correctness but it is just liberal blasphemy laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0
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Peter Martin
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Of course Hitler was a socialist. Massively from the left.
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Stephen Robinson
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JB: The Republicans have a long, proud history -- Party of Lincoln! --
that started to run off the rails quite a long time ago. Nixon, for instance,
was a seriously bad apple, but he was more of a symptom than the
disease itself.
SER: Yeah, I think that might have occurred with the Southern Strategy
in the 1960s when Southern segregationists soon infiltrated and
basically co-opted the GOP. It's hard to claim you're the party of Lincoln
when you simultaneously are the party of "states right" and the former
confederacy.
And even philosophically, the modern GOP would really oppose Lincoln
in his deeds -- federal authority, executive actions (Emancipation
Proclamation), citizenship for former slaves within a couple years
(hardly a conservative approach).
But the end of the party truly came with Palin, I think, when the GOP
embraced the anti-intellectual, jingoistic, theocratic extremes of the
base. The Rockefeller Republicans were no more, and it's crazy short-
sighted because the GOP will soon lose all minorities (blacks, latinos,
gays, even women) when with a more moderate approach, they could
have had more lasting success.
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Robbie Parry
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Thought I'd head over to both parties' sites and see how they described themselves.
From the Republican's site:
QUOTE:
| It began in a little schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin, in 1854. A small group of dedicated abolitionists gathered to fight the expansion of slavery, and they gave birth to a Party dedicated to freedom and equal opportunity.
The name “Republican” was chosen, alluding to Thomas Jefferson’s Democratic-Republican Party and conveying a commitment to the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
The Party was formally organized in July 1854 by thousands of anti-slavery activists at a convention in Jackson, Michigan. And it was no accident that two years later, in 1856, the first Republican National Convention took place in Philadelphia, where the Constitution was written. |
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From the Democrats' website:
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| Since 1848, the Democratic National Committee has been the home of the Democratic Party, the oldest continuing party in the United States.
Today we are millions of supporters strong, fighting for progress and helping elect Democrats across the country to state government, Congress, and the White House.
There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top.
That's why Democrats are working to make progress on issues like job creation, equal pay, education, health care, and clean energy. |
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I did have a browse of other parts of their sites. Seems they have very similar aims on most respects.
Perhaps they should merge!
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Mark Haslett
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John M. Jackson: Hitler was a socialist. A national socialist but still a socialist.** That's why Hitler and Stalin got along so well. (Edited to distinguish which "John".)
Edited by JohnByrne3 on 24 July 2016 at 7:49am
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John M. Jackson
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John M. Jackson: Hitler was a socialist. A national socialist but still a socialist.** Mark: That's why Hitler and Stalin got along so well. ** I'm pretty sure dictators trust no one. Especially other dictators. (Edited to distinguish which "John".)
Edited by JohnByrne3 on 24 July 2016 at 7:50am
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Michael Roberts
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Hitler was a socialist. A national socialist but still a socialist.
Socialists want a big federal government. I'm pretty sure there has
never been a dictator that believed in small government.
Socialists believe in blasphemy laws. They disguise it as political
correctness but it is just liberal blasphemy laws.
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Can't argue with this ironclad logic.
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Robbie Parry
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Birds of a feather flock together:
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John M. Jackson
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JMJ: Hitler was a socialist. A national socialist but still a socialist.
Socialists want a big federal government. I'm pretty sure there has
never been a dictator that believed in small government.
Socialists believe in blasphemy laws. They disguise it as political
correctness but it is just liberal blasphemy laws.
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MR: Can't argue with this ironclad logic.
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I detect sarcasm, Michael, but I am all about logic.
If you have a theory that dictator's actually prefer small government then I am willing to listen to it.
If you argue that liberal socialists actually believe in free speech then what's going on in Europe has me really confused.
http://www.legal-project.org/issues/european-hate-speech-law s
Best,
JMJ
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